[Internal-cg] Fwd: Information requested

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Mon Mar 9 16:08:57 UTC 2015

In reply to those that from the beginning  
Even did not want that we  go through the proposals and check them under carious steps.
Pls allow us to open bur mouth .
Pls allow us to be heard
It us nit dictate it us democratic
Some people were mire than happy from the beginning and wanted to send the proposals to NTIA without any assessment 
Fair enough but allow others who express concerns in the last ICG f2 f to express their views  .
This group is not running friendly some people believe that they gave all right to say yes or  no but other do not have similar right

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> On 8 Mar 2015, at 17:58, Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net> wrote:
> Colleagues,
> Both responses we have in hand sufficiently address the accountability
> chain of the IANA functions operator both present and proposed. Unless
> we ask specific questions we will get the same answers that are already
> contained in the responses and other relevant normative documents.
> Therefore I strongly oppose to ICG asking further general questions
> about accountability.
> If members of the ICG have concrete questions about accountability,
> please raise them here. In a first step we can see if the answers are
> contained in the documents we already have or if other ICG members can
> answer the questions sufficiently. Only if and when we have consensus
> that additional clarification is needed beyond this should we formally
> ask questions to the communities.
> This is our agreed procedure and I fully support the chair's treatment
> of Mr. Arasteh's message.
> Daniel
>> On 8.03.15 9:47 , Patrik Fältström wrote:
>> All,
>> This I treat as a request from an ICG member for further explanation by
>> other ICG members.
>>   Patrik
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> *From:* Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>>
>>> *Date:* 8 mars 2015 08:30:25 CET
>>> *To:* Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se <mailto:paf at frobbit.se>>, 
>>> Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir at mbash.net <mailto:mbashir at mbash.net>>,
>>> Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>
>>> *Subject:* *Information requested*
>>> À *Patrik*, *Mohamed*, Alissa, WUKnoben, ICG
>>> Step 2 ,ICG Assessement of Cummunity proposals
>>> Dear Vice chair,
>>> May you please ask Jari and Alan Barret or Paul Wilson to provide the
>>> foloowings;
>>> A COMPARATIVE Table indicating the prcess of accountability currently
>>> in force and implemented and those which will be required after
>>> Transitiion.
>>> It would be useful to have that comparative Table enabling ICG Members
>>> to better undersatnd how the accountability of Protocol Parameter and
>>> Numbers are affected by Transition.
>>> The reports of these two communities are difficult to make such a
>>> comparision.
>>> Without that I will have serious difficulties to comment on the
>>> exacteness and appropriateness of the content of these two comminities
>>> on accountability before and after transition.
>>> By the way, Jari promised to provide a graphic Diagram regarding
>>> internal accountability being carried out by IETF
>>> mOREOVER, aLAN bARRET / Paul Wilson ,are respectfully requested to
>>> provide similar graphic Diagram about the accountability currently in
>>> force in RIRs ,in particular  that RIRs have a more decentralized
>>> process of five regional communities and the overall accountabilities
>>> of the entire  Rir s are not clear
>>> Rergards
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