From alissa at cooperw.in  Tue Dec  1 18:41:23 2015
From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 10:41:23 -0800
Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-ACCT 21-day Public Comment Is
	Live
References: <D2826AD5.FEE3%hillary.jett@icann.org>
Message-ID: <7F5C8F15-1B04-42FD-BCC2-4F3DE1B08CD8@cooperw.in>

FYI. The linked page also contains webinar information.

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Hillary Jett <hillary.jett at icann.org>
> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-ACCT 21-day Public Comment Is Live
> Date: November 30, 2015 at 6:06:34 PM PST
> To: CCWG-Accountability <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> The 21-day public comment period of the CCWG-Accountability Draft Work Stream 1 Recommendations has just been posted here: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en>. The comment period will run from November 30 through 23:59 UTC on December 21. 
> 
> We hope to begin receiving translations in the next 12-14 days.
> 
> Thank you!
> Hillary
> 
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> Hillary Jett
> Communications Coordinator
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> 
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From jen at icgsec.asia  Fri Dec 18 17:15:21 2015
From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:15:21 -0500
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
Message-ID: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>

Dear ICG Members,

 

Hope this email finds you all well.  Per the ICG chairs, below please find a
doodle poll to determine when the January ICG teleconference will be held:

 

Doodle poll: http://doodle.com/poll/vzr2ya4k7zwd3hrd 

 

The time slot choices are as follows (all times in UTC):

 

Tuesday, January 12

19:00-20:00

20:00-21:00

21:00-22:00

 

Wednesday, January 13

19:00-20:00

20:00-21:00

21:00-22:00

 

Responses by December 30 will be very much appreciated.

 

Warmest wishes for a happy holiday season!

 

Best Regards,

 

Jennifer

 

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From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 19:16:32 2015
From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:16:32 +0100
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
In-Reply-To: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>
References: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>
Message-ID: <CACNR4-JqTW9Qz_px7E=JnEyEUQG4L_Ahks+RFMX5jfckH7rWYw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Jenifer
I am for 21,00 either day.
But pls what is the agenda.
Dear Alissa and Co-chairs/ Vice Chairs
What is the agenda?
By the way, have you envisaged to have an ICG meeting during ,before,after
ICANN 55
For your info, CCWG CHAIRS7 Co Chairs are negotiating to have one day
meeting, 04 March before ICANN 55
Regards
Kavouss .


2015-12-18 18:15 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung <jen at icgsec.asia>:

> Dear ICG Members,
>
>
>
> Hope this email finds you all well.  Per the ICG chairs, below please find
> a doodle poll to determine when the January ICG teleconference will be held:
>
>
>
> Doodle poll: http://doodle.com/poll/vzr2ya4k7zwd3hrd
>
>
>
> The time slot choices are as follows (all times in UTC):
>
>
>
> Tuesday, January 12
>
> 19:00-20:00
>
> 20:00-21:00
>
> 21:00-22:00
>
>
>
> Wednesday, January 13
>
> 19:00-20:00
>
> 20:00-21:00
>
> 21:00-22:00
>
>
>
> Responses by December 30 will be very much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Warmest wishes for a happy holiday season!
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
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From paf at frobbit.se  Sat Dec 19 19:25:10 2015
From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:25:10 +0100
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
In-Reply-To: <CACNR4-JqTW9Qz_px7E=JnEyEUQG4L_Ahks+RFMX5jfckH7rWYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>
	<CACNR4-JqTW9Qz_px7E=JnEyEUQG4L_Ahks+RFMX5jfckH7rWYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F12C4831-A83F-4EC2-99AA-4D52FEBC2C82@frobbit.se>

On 19 Dec 2015, at 20:16, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

> Dear Alissa and Co-chairs/ Vice Chairs
> What is the agenda?

We have no agenda yet. We are watching the CCWG process, and we are in close contact with the CCWG chairs.

Given the discussion around the Board Submission last week, we envisioned the responses from the chartering organizations and reactions from the operational communities might very well require a discussion in ICG.

We discussed whether we should wait until say a week after Dec 21 to see what the situation is, but, due to the holidays of various kinds in the world between now and early January we decided to schedule a call now, while ICG members do read email.

If we on short notice do not see the need for a call, we can cancel.

> By the way, have you envisaged to have an ICG meeting during ,before,after ICANN 55

No, we have not planned any such meeting. Neither at, nor around ICANN 55.

   Regards, Patrik
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From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 23:17:20 2015
From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 00:17:20 +0100
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
In-Reply-To: <F12C4831-A83F-4EC2-99AA-4D52FEBC2C82@frobbit.se>
References: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>
	<CACNR4-JqTW9Qz_px7E=JnEyEUQG4L_Ahks+RFMX5jfckH7rWYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12C4831-A83F-4EC2-99AA-4D52FEBC2C82@frobbit.se>
Message-ID: <CACNR4-KASv60YbQnnn3jpAzrE_2rb1fnJRNcSW1tDwRTxtNLqA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Patrik
Chartering organisation formal comments are foreseen to be available after
21 January 2016.
They can not and should not be forced to make any formal comments before
they received the compiled publci cooments schedules to be avaiable after
07.01.2016
However, any chartering organisation or any member of these organisations
are free to submit informal or formal comments ,if they so wish.
However, it was mentioned by several people at CCWG CALLS AND BY
E-MAILS that is is unusal that chartering organisations be expected to
submit formal comments before they examine public comments
The discussion on CCWG is blocked.
There are several sporadic e-mail exchange on some issues .
As far as the Board's comments are concerned the discussion concentrated on
Missions statement and ...
But there is no formal discussion on the Board comments as such.
Becky, Burr, the chair of WP 2 has announced her resignation.
The chairs or co chairs of CCWG took silent positions.
We are approaching the deadlines.
Co chairs of CCWG formally announced that they would take the Board's
comments as any other comments from public.
I do not agree with that for the simple reasons that the Board should
finally approve CCWG Recommendations.
In my view, it is more appropèriate that CCWG involved in serious and
logical discussions with Bioard.
The situation become critical.
I sent an informal Note to Steve and Fadi to encourage then to be engaged
in the discussion as soon as possible and I got an informal warm reply.
I did also send an informal message to the Co chairs of CCWG and ask then
to be more mindful .I got a cold and dry , perhaps disappointing reply.
I did send them again another informal message and once again encourage
them to take the leadership on the heavy but  exchage of e.-maiils on some
issues of the Board's comments , but not all, which is being held
in   sporadic manner
This is my progressive report as ICG Liaison at CCWG.
I am not comfortable with the progess of the last piece of the work.
It is possible to acheive some sort of agreement with the Board.
Regards
Kavouss

2015-12-19 20:25 GMT+01:00 Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se>:

> On 19 Dec 2015, at 20:16, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>
> > Dear Alissa and Co-chairs/ Vice Chairs
> > What is the agenda?
>
> We have no agenda yet. We are watching the CCWG process, and we are in
> close contact with the CCWG chairs.
>
> Given the discussion around the Board Submission last week, we envisioned
> the responses from the chartering organizations and reactions from the
> operational communities might very well require a discussion in ICG.
>
> We discussed whether we should wait until say a week after Dec 21 to see
> what the situation is, but, due to the holidays of various kinds in the
> world between now and early January we decided to schedule a call now,
> while ICG members do read email.
>
> If we on short notice do not see the need for a call, we can cancel.
>
> > By the way, have you envisaged to have an ICG meeting during
> ,before,after ICANN 55
>
> No, we have not planned any such meeting. Neither at, nor around ICANN 55.
>
>    Regards, Patrik
>
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From paf at frobbit.se  Sat Dec 19 23:21:56 2015
From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 00:21:56 +0100
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
In-Reply-To: <CACNR4-KASv60YbQnnn3jpAzrE_2rb1fnJRNcSW1tDwRTxtNLqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>
	<CACNR4-JqTW9Qz_px7E=JnEyEUQG4L_Ahks+RFMX5jfckH7rWYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12C4831-A83F-4EC2-99AA-4D52FEBC2C82@frobbit.se>
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Message-ID: <BBEF017E-3FF6-469E-8135-D533BF59ECB1@frobbit.se>

On 20 Dec 2015, at 0:17, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

> This is my progressive report as ICG Liaison at CCWG.

Thanks!

> I am not comfortable with the progess of the last piece of the work.

This is what many people say -- for various and different reasons.

And this is exactly why we co-chairs felt we should at least schedule a call in January so that we have a placeholder if it is detected that we should talk about something that emerges between now and then.

   Regards, Patrik
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From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 11:15:58 2015
From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 12:15:58 +0100
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
In-Reply-To: <BBEF017E-3FF6-469E-8135-D533BF59ECB1@frobbit.se>
References: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>
	<CACNR4-JqTW9Qz_px7E=JnEyEUQG4L_Ahks+RFMX5jfckH7rWYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12C4831-A83F-4EC2-99AA-4D52FEBC2C82@frobbit.se>
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	<BBEF017E-3FF6-469E-8135-D533BF59ECB1@frobbit.se>
Message-ID: <CACNR4-JYS3vSSEmmNadNm6Df82ufJ-_tzk0wVnZB7Oy1965hrw@mail.gmail.com>

Patrik
The issue requiers some preparatory works.
I do not believe that in one  Call we could acheive any thing
Perhaps  there is a need to prepare a resume of the situation .
I have been recently operated ( Colum Vertbral) and just back home. I have
to remain in bed for some weeks.
If Keith Drazak, Milton Muller who permanantly followed the process ( Keith
9 and Milton who became very active during the last month or so assistme,
we three could go through the process, including ICANNBoard's comments and
strictly on a purely prfessional and neutral basis prepare that working
document of one or two pages providing an overview of the problem.
Kavouss

2015-12-20 0:21 GMT+01:00 Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se>:

> On 20 Dec 2015, at 0:17, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>
> > This is my progressive report as ICG Liaison at CCWG.
>
> Thanks!
>
> > I am not comfortable with the progess of the last piece of the work.
>
> This is what many people say -- for various and different reasons.
>
> And this is exactly why we co-chairs felt we should at least schedule a
> call in January so that we have a placeholder if it is detected that we
> should talk about something that emerges between now and then.
>
>    Regards, Patrik
>
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From paf at frobbit.se  Sun Dec 20 12:14:50 2015
From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:14:50 +0100
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
In-Reply-To: <CACNR4-JYS3vSSEmmNadNm6Df82ufJ-_tzk0wVnZB7Oy1965hrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>
	<CACNR4-JqTW9Qz_px7E=JnEyEUQG4L_Ahks+RFMX5jfckH7rWYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12C4831-A83F-4EC2-99AA-4D52FEBC2C82@frobbit.se>
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Message-ID: <A65DD589-A44B-4DEE-96E3-DDF1570F139B@frobbit.se>

On 20 Dec 2015, at 12:15, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

> I have been recently operated ( Colum Vertbral) and just back home. I have to remain in bed for some weeks.

I hope the surgery went well, and that you get a speedy recovery!

> If Keith Drazak, Milton Muller who permanantly followed the process ( Keith 9 and Milton who became very active during the last month or so assistme, we three could go through the process, including ICANNBoard's comments and strictly on a purely prfessional and neutral basis prepare that working document of one or two pages providing an overview of the problem.

I think we all know a lot more about a week from now, and we can at that time decide what path we take.

   Best, Patrik
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From jen at icgsec.asia  Tue Dec 29 07:03:46 2015
From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:03:46 +0800
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
Message-ID: <000501d14207$120448d0$360cda70$@icgsec.asia>

Dear All,

 

A friendly reminder to please fill out the doodle poll by tomorrow (Dec 30)
for the January call if you haven't done so already.  Thank you!

 

Best Regards,

 

Jennifer

 

From: Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] 
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 1:15 AM
To: 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Subject: ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference

 

Dear ICG Members,

 

Hope this email finds you all well.  Per the ICG chairs, below please find a
doodle poll to determine when the January ICG teleconference will be held:

 

Doodle poll: http://doodle.com/poll/vzr2ya4k7zwd3hrd 

 

The time slot choices are as follows (all times in UTC):

 

Tuesday, January 12

19:00-20:00

20:00-21:00

21:00-22:00

 

Wednesday, January 13

19:00-20:00

20:00-21:00

21:00-22:00

 

Responses by December 30 will be very much appreciated.

 

Warmest wishes for a happy holiday season!

 

Best Regards,

 

Jennifer

 

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From manal at tra.gov.eg  Tue Dec 29 09:50:36 2015
From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:50:36 +0000
Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference
In-Reply-To: <CACNR4-KASv60YbQnnn3jpAzrE_2rb1fnJRNcSW1tDwRTxtNLqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <05cd01d139b7$afe8c100$0fba4300$@icgsec.asia>
	<CACNR4-JqTW9Qz_px7E=JnEyEUQG4L_Ahks+RFMX5jfckH7rWYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F12C4831-A83F-4EC2-99AA-4D52FEBC2C82@frobbit.se>
	<CACNR4-KASv60YbQnnn3jpAzrE_2rb1fnJRNcSW1tDwRTxtNLqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1b5ee0d26ce34c789f3ae16e3e3683ad@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG>

Many thanks for this helpful brief !! and thank you for sharing your view ..
Looking forward to our call and wishing you and all ICG members and secretariat a very Happy and Prosperous New Year ..
Kind Regards
--Manal

From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 1:17 AM
To: Patrik Fältström
Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for January teleconference

Dear Patrik
Chartering organisation formal comments are foreseen to be available after 21 January 2016.
They can not and should not be forced to make any formal comments before they received the compiled publci cooments schedules to be avaiable after 07.01.2016
However, any chartering organisation or any member of these organisations are free to submit informal or formal comments ,if they so wish.
However, it was mentioned by several people at CCWG CALLS AND BY E-MAILS that is is unusal that chartering organisations be expected to submit formal comments before they examine public comments
The discussion on CCWG is blocked.
There are several sporadic e-mail exchange on some issues .
As far as the Board's comments are concerned the discussion concentrated on Missions statement and ...
But there is no formal discussion on the Board comments as such.
Becky, Burr, the chair of WP 2 has announced her resignation.
The chairs or co chairs of CCWG took silent positions.
We are approaching the deadlines.
Co chairs of CCWG formally announced that they would take the Board's comments as any other comments from public.
I do not agree with that for the simple reasons that the Board should finally approve CCWG Recommendations.
In my view, it is more appropèriate that CCWG involved in serious and logical discussions with Bioard.
The situation become critical.
I sent an informal Note to Steve and Fadi to encourage then to be engaged in the discussion as soon as possible and I got an informal warm reply.
I did also send an informal message to the Co chairs of CCWG and ask then to be more mindful .I got a cold and dry , perhaps disappointing reply.
I did send them again another informal message and once again encourage them to take the leadership on the heavy but  exchage of e.-maiils on some issues of the Board's comments , but not all, which is being held in   sporadic manner
This is my progressive report as ICG Liaison at CCWG.
I am not comfortable with the progess of the last piece of the work.
It is possible to acheive some sort of agreement with the Board.
Regards
Kavouss

2015-12-19 20:25 GMT+01:00 Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se<mailto:paf at frobbit.se>>:
On 19 Dec 2015, at 20:16, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

> Dear Alissa and Co-chairs/ Vice Chairs
> What is the agenda?

We have no agenda yet. We are watching the CCWG process, and we are in close contact with the CCWG chairs.

Given the discussion around the Board Submission last week, we envisioned the responses from the chartering organizations and reactions from the operational communities might very well require a discussion in ICG.

We discussed whether we should wait until say a week after Dec 21 to see what the situation is, but, due to the holidays of various kinds in the world between now and early January we decided to schedule a call now, while ICG members do read email.

If we on short notice do not see the need for a call, we can cancel.

> By the way, have you envisaged to have an ICG meeting during ,before,after ICANN 55

No, we have not planned any such meeting. Neither at, nor around ICANN 55.

   Regards, Patrik

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