From alissa at cooperw.in  Fri Aug  5 18:16:30 2016
From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:16:30 -0700
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
Message-ID: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>

Hi all,

Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.

Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.

I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.

Many thanks,
Alissa

From jari.arkko at piuha.net  Fri Aug  5 18:55:36 2016
From: jari.arkko at piuha.net (Jari Arkko)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:55:36 +0300
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <91B3847C-0893-4F17-9E53-9CFE220F71AA@piuha.net>

I’d be happy with this.

Jari

Disclaimer: but of course I’m also one of the parties working on this topic

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From Lynn at LStAmour.org  Fri Aug  5 19:35:11 2016
From: Lynn at LStAmour.org (Lynn St.Amour)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:35:11 -0400
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <91F6D064-89A3-4374-8B05-1CC6D9B8759C@LStAmour.org>

Hi Alissa,

I have not been following this closely, and so appreciate the explanation.  

I think this makes a lot of sense and I support using the ICG website.

Best to all,

Lynn

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
> 
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
> 
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Alissa
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org



From mundy at tislabs.com  Fri Aug  5 19:48:42 2016
From: mundy at tislabs.com (Russ Mundy)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:48:42 -0400
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <91F6D064-89A3-4374-8B05-1CC6D9B8759C@LStAmour.org>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<91F6D064-89A3-4374-8B05-1CC6D9B8759C@LStAmour.org>
Message-ID: <5BB67EED-ABF6-4766-A4E8-659F7DAF86E3@tislabs.com>

Alissa, I agree that the ICG site is an appropriate place for this activity - I support using it.  RussM

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Lynn St.Amour <Lynn at LStAmour.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alissa,
> 
> I have not been following this closely, and so appreciate the explanation.  
> 
> I think this makes a lot of sense and I support using the ICG website.
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> Lynn
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
>> 
>> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>> 
>> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Alissa
>> _______________________________________________
>> Internal-cg mailing list
>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org



From Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk  Fri Aug  5 21:21:50 2016
From: Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk (Martin Boyle)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:21:50 +0000
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <5BB67EED-ABF6-4766-A4E8-659F7DAF86E3@tislabs.com>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<91F6D064-89A3-4374-8B05-1CC6D9B8759C@LStAmour.org>
	<5BB67EED-ABF6-4766-A4E8-659F7DAF86E3@tislabs.com>
Message-ID: <VI1PR05MB13739E4007C66381A817187CEE180@VI1PR05MB1373.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Alissa,

I join others in supporting this - it does indeed make a lot of sense.

Best

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Russ Mundy
Sent: 05 August 2016 21:49
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in>
Cc: Russ Mundy <mundy at tislabs.com>; IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group <internal-cg at ianacg.org>; Lynn St.Amour <Lynn at LStAmour.org>
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment

Alissa, I agree that the ICG site is an appropriate place for this activity - I support using it.  RussM

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Lynn St.Amour <Lynn at LStAmour.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alissa,
> 
> I have not been following this closely, and so appreciate the explanation.  
> 
> I think this makes a lot of sense and I support using the ICG website.
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> Lynn
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
>> 
>> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>> 
>> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Alissa
>> _______________________________________________
>> Internal-cg mailing list
>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org


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From mbashir at mbash.net  Fri Aug  5 21:25:57 2016
From: mbashir at mbash.net (Mohamed El Bashir)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 00:25:57 +0300
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <4AF5EDBB-57E7-4BA1-8193-AFE26D0F7269@mbash.net>

Hi Alissa,

Agree, ICG will be the neutral group which can host/coordinate the agreements call for public comments.

Kind Regards,
Mohamed 

( Sent by iPhone - apologies for any misspelling )

> On 5 Aug 2016, at 21:16, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
> 
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
> 
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Alissa
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
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From joseph at oracle.com  Fri Aug  5 22:04:15 2016
From: joseph at oracle.com (joseph at oracle.com)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 15:04:15 -0700
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
Message-ID: <s7b9alb6fo7p49vd33ti5llc.1470434655725@email.lge.com>

Seems fine as long as clearly delineated as not our work...merely a logistical accomidation..
Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
------ Original message------From: Alissa CooperDate: Fri, Aug 5, 2016 11:17 AMTo: ICG Group;Cc: Subject:[Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
Hi all,Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.Many thanks,Alissa_______________________________________________Internal-cg mailing listInternal-cg at mm.ianacg.orghttp://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
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From glaser at cgi.br  Sat Aug  6 02:27:24 2016
From: glaser at cgi.br (Hartmut Richard Glaser)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 23:27:24 -0300
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <5BB67EED-ABF6-4766-A4E8-659F7DAF86E3@tislabs.com>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<91F6D064-89A3-4374-8B05-1CC6D9B8759C@LStAmour.org>
	<5BB67EED-ABF6-4766-A4E8-659F7DAF86E3@tislabs.com>
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+1

Hartmut

===============================
On 05/08/16 16:48, Russ Mundy wrote:
> Alissa, I agree that the ICG site is an appropriate place for this activity - I support using it.  RussM
>
>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Lynn St.Amour <Lynn at LStAmour.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alissa,
>>
>> I have not been following this closely, and so appreciate the explanation.
>>
>> I think this makes a lot of sense and I support using the ICG website.
>>
>> Best to all,
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
>>>
>>> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>>>
>>> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Alissa
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Internal-cg mailing list
>>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Internal-cg mailing list
>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
>
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From mnuduma at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  6 02:52:12 2016
From: mnuduma at yahoo.com (Mary Uduma)
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 03:52:12 +0100
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <20160806025212.5398613.77372.20122@yahoo.com>

Hello Alissa
No objections from‎ me based on your explanations. 

BR.  
Mary Uduma

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
  Original Message  
From: Alissa Cooper
Sent: Friday, 5 August 2016 19:19
To: ICG Group
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment

Hi all,

Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.

Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.

I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.

Many thanks,
Alissa
_______________________________________________
Internal-cg mailing list
Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org


From paf at frobbit.se  Sat Aug  6 05:15:49 2016
From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=)
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 07:15:49 +0200
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>

FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and what ICG [website] should be used for.

   Patrik

On 5 Aug 2016, at 20:16, Alissa Cooper wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
>
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>
> Many thanks,
> Alissa
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
>
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From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com  Sat Aug  6 07:35:55 2016
From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 09:35:55 +0200
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
Message-ID: <CACNR4-+jFmETNTp5o=-t2LuTMFEJ10NKyS-8TU3zKHQRxeAEDg@mail.gmail.com>

Alissa,
I have been following this activity and supportive to have a healthy
,neutral and effective mechanism to carry out public comments process on
this important and critical issue.
Yes I agree with your proposal .
It sounds good and logical
What I suggest is if you have receive no comment to the contrary, you
prepare a letter from ICG , which has not yet been  disbanded  yet  to CWG
and offer the use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the
call for public comment on these documents.
You do not need the agreement/ consent of ICG Members on the text as they
have given their consent to the approach
Regards
Kavouss

2016-08-06 7:15 GMT+02:00 Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se>:

> FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and what ICG [website] should be used
> for.
>
>    Patrik
>
> On 5 Aug 2016, at 20:16, Alissa Cooper wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a
> set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA
> stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an
> entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are
> due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would
> like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to
> host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these
> agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF
> Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a
> “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed
> like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the
> ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working
> on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the
> comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
> >
> > Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this
> call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is
> very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone
> objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say
> so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
> >
> > I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required
> here and she is looking into the details with her team.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Alissa
> > _______________________________________________
> > Internal-cg mailing list
> > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
>
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From jjs at dyalog.net  Sat Aug  6 07:58:24 2016
From: jjs at dyalog.net (Subrenat, Jean-Jacques)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 09:58:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <CACNR4-+jFmETNTp5o=-t2LuTMFEJ10NKyS-8TU3zKHQRxeAEDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <150333391.26.1470470303879.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local>

Dear Alissa,

- I support the proposed solution;

- and the suggestion from Kavouss that you, as Chair of the ICG, send a letter on our behalf.

Best regards,
Jean-Jacques.








----- Mail original -----
De: "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
À: "Patrik Fältström" <paf at frobbit.se>
Cc: "ICG Group" <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Envoyé: Samedi 6 Août 2016 09:35:55
Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment




Alissa, 
I have been following this activity and supportive to have a healthy ,neutral and effective mechanism to carry out public comments process on this important and critical issue. 
Yes I agree with your proposal . 
It sounds good and logical 
What I suggest is if you have receive no comment to the contrary, you prepare a letter from ICG , which has not yet been disbanded yet to CWG and offer the use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. 
You do not need the agreement/ consent of ICG Members on the text as they have given their consent to the approach 
Regards 
Kavouss 


2016-08-06 7:15 GMT+02:00 Patrik Fältström < paf at frobbit.se > : 


FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and what ICG [website] should be used for. 

Patrik 



On 5 Aug 2016, at 20:16, Alissa Cooper wrote: 

> Hi all, 
> 
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG. 
> 
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8. 
> 
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team. 
> 
> Many thanks, 
> Alissa 
> _______________________________________________ 
> Internal-cg mailing list 
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org 
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org 
> 

_______________________________________________ 
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http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org 



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From russ.housley at verizon.net  Sat Aug  6 14:20:54 2016
From: russ.housley at verizon.net (Russ Housley)
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 10:20:54 -0400
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <02E06CF0-4374-4CB0-B12F-90251D34FE2F@verizon.net>

I agree.  The ICG site provides a neutral place to gather public comments.  I hope the ICG Secretariat can support this activity.

Regards,
  Russ 


On 5 Aug 2016, at 21:16, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
> 
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
> 
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Alissa
> 
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From housley at vigilsec.com  Sat Aug  6 14:32:21 2016
From: housley at vigilsec.com (Russ Housley)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 10:32:21 -0400
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <4EF5AC9A-024E-4412-AA1B-8030CDC2FD58@vigilsec.com>

I agree.  The ICG site provides a neutral place to gather public comments.  I hope the ICG Secretariat can support this activity.

Regards,
  Russ 


On 5 Aug 2016, at 21:16, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
> 
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
> 
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Alissa
> 
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From manal at tra.gov.eg  Sat Aug  6 17:09:46 2016
From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 17:09:46 +0000
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <4EF5AC9A-024E-4412-AA1B-8030CDC2FD58@vigilsec.com>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<4EF5AC9A-024E-4412-AA1B-8030CDC2FD58@vigilsec.com>
Message-ID: <c11dd6db697c45bd8f2764b8023b4b99@ntra-mbx2.TRA.GOV.EG>

Also in support .. Thanks for providing the details .. It's a good idea to use the ICG website being a neutral place ..
Kind Regards
--Manal

From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Russ Housley
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 4:32 PM
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in>
Cc: ICG Group <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment

I agree.  The ICG site provides a neutral place to gather public comments.  I hope the ICG Secretariat can support this activity.

Regards,
  Russ


On 5 Aug 2016, at 21:16, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in<mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>> wrote:
Hi all,

Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a "neutral" place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.

Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.

I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.

Many thanks,
Alissa
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From daniel at karrenberg.net  Sat Aug  6 18:54:39 2016
From: daniel at karrenberg.net (Daniel Karrenberg)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 20:54:39 +0200
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
Message-ID: <9FF8D00B-05BB-43CF-9353-3EACD666DC38@karrenberg.net>


Definitely. 

Daniel

---
Sent from a handheld device.

> On 06.08.2016, at 07:15, Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and what ICG [website] should be used for.
> 
>   Patrik
> 
>> On 5 Aug 2016, at 20:16, Alissa Cooper wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
>> 
>> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>> 
>> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Alissa
>> _______________________________________________
>> Internal-cg mailing list
>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org



From fmniebel at gmail.com  Sat Aug  6 21:02:31 2016
From: fmniebel at gmail.com (michael niebel)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 23:02:31 +0200
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <CAMK78HVpeE+OB_+ka9JoV3yGCzOTWCAVvq-jBXmN2JdH9VEgmg@mail.gmail.com>

Also in support
Michael

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a
> set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA
> stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an
> entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are
> due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would
> like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to
> host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these
> agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF
> Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a
> “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed
> like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the
> ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working
> on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the
> comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
>
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call
> for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very
> much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects
> to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on
> the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required
> here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>
> Many thanks,
> Alissa
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
>
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From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com  Sat Aug  6 21:11:01 2016
From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 23:11:01 +0200
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <9FF8D00B-05BB-43CF-9353-3EACD666DC38@karrenberg.net>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
	<9FF8D00B-05BB-43CF-9353-3EACD666DC38@karrenberg.net>
Message-ID: <CACNR4-JrAHN2StVq89pmLPVBgoK5Zed8=5iL67CTBjMAjMOO3g@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Alissa,
You have sufficient support and no objection or abstention to the proposal.
Please kindly take my comment/ suggestion into account and prepare the
letter to be sent to CWG as indicated in my previous message.
The matter is critical. There is no time to wait
Go ahead
Kavouss


2016-08-06 20:54 GMT+02:00 Daniel Karrenberg <daniel at karrenberg.net>:

>
> Definitely.
>
> Daniel
>
> ---
> Sent from a handheld device.
>
> > On 06.08.2016, at 07:15, Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:
> >
> > FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and what ICG [website] should be used
> for.
> >
> >   Patrik
> >
> >> On 5 Aug 2016, at 20:16, Alissa Cooper wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a
> set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA
> stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an
> entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are
> due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would
> like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to
> host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these
> agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF
> Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a
> “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed
> like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the
> ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working
> on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the
> comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
> >>
> >> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this
> call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is
> very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone
> objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say
> so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
> >>
> >> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required
> here and she is looking into the details with her team.
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Alissa
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Internal-cg mailing list
> >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Internal-cg mailing list
> > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
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From Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de  Sun Aug  7 01:39:07 2016
From: Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de (Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:39:07 +0800
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <CACNR4-JrAHN2StVq89pmLPVBgoK5Zed8=5iL67CTBjMAjMOO3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
	<9FF8D00B-05BB-43CF-9353-3EACD666DC38@karrenberg.net>
	<CACNR4-JrAHN2StVq89pmLPVBgoK5Zed8=5iL67CTBjMAjMOO3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48302376-80A6-4170-9D2F-E16A2C3D04FD@t-online.de>

I also agree to this proposal 
Wolf-Ulrich

Sent from my personal phone

> Am 07.08.2016 um 05:11 schrieb Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
> 
> Dear Alissa,
> You have sufficient support and no objection or abstention to the proposal.
> Please kindly take my comment/ suggestion into account and prepare the letter to be sent to CWG as indicated in my previous message.
> The matter is critical. There is no time to wait
> Go ahead
> Kavouss  
> 
> 
> 2016-08-06 20:54 GMT+02:00 Daniel Karrenberg <daniel at karrenberg.net>:
>> 
>> Definitely.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> ---
>> Sent from a handheld device.
>> 
>> > On 06.08.2016, at 07:15, Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:
>> >
>> > FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and what ICG [website] should be used for.
>> >
>> >   Patrik
>> >
>> >> On 5 Aug 2016, at 20:16, Alissa Cooper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
>> >>
>> >> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>> >>
>> >> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Alissa
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Internal-cg mailing list
>> >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>> >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Internal-cg mailing list
>> > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>> > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Internal-cg mailing list
>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
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From pwilson at apnic.net  Sun Aug  7 08:14:42 2016
From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 18:14:42 +1000
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <FD6CF390-4353-4D55-AF77-9D6B5F2DE1B1@apnic.net>

Agree, no problem.


On 6 Aug 2016, at 4:16, Alissa Cooper wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on 
> a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the 
> IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held 
> by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those 
> agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 
> 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and 
> secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these 
> documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and 
> because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements 
> themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call 
> for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. 
> This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just 
> some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR 
> agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and 
> that too will not require any work from the ICG.
>
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this 
> call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize 
> this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but 
> if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this 
> purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be 
> required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>
> Many thanks,
> Alissa
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org

________________________________________________________________________
Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC                        dg at apnic.net
http://www.apnic.net                                            @apnicdg


From paf at frobbit.se  Sun Aug  7 12:06:14 2016
From: paf at frobbit.se (Internal-cg)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 15:06:14 +0300
Subject: [Internal-cg] =?utf-8?q?this_is_genious?=
Message-ID: <0000765873ed$f9098077$1d3c6599$@frobbit.se>

Hey! 
I suddely came accross  this  stuff, this  is just  genious, take  a look <http://bargain.passdabuck.com/e4kket>
Best, Internal-cg
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From milton at gatech.edu  Sun Aug  7 17:05:41 2016
From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:05:41 +0000
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
Message-ID: <SN2PR0701MB7336DE912630257F43DDADEA11A0@SN2PR0701MB733.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

I agree, only issue is whether ICANN, which has a massive PR apparatus to publicize the public comment period, will point to this site or its own, or both. 

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and what ICG [website] should be used for.
> 
>    Patrik
> 
> On 5 Aug 2016, at 20:16, Alissa Cooper wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set
> of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA
> stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity
> independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to
> go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to
> know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call
> for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact
> all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to
> the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the
> call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This
> would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some
> resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will
> sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not
> require any work from the ICG.
> >
> > Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call
> for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very
> much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to
> using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list
> before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
> >
> > I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required
> here and she is looking into the details with her team.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Alissa
> > _______________________________________________
> > Internal-cg mailing list
> > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
> >

From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com  Sun Aug  7 17:24:09 2016
From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Arasteh)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 19:24:09 +0200
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <SN2PR0701MB7336DE912630257F43DDADEA11A0@SN2PR0701MB733.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
	<D6E5AA97-88F4-45F9-AB63-025F27F5646D@frobbit.se>
	<SN2PR0701MB7336DE912630257F43DDADEA11A0@SN2PR0701MB733.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <16534828-A55A-44BF-9B00-3F0CA3AFCA17@gmail.com>

It would be preferable that only one site( ICG) be indicated and not BOTH
Kavousd 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Aug 2016, at 19:05, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
> 
> I agree, only issue is whether ICANN, which has a massive PR apparatus to publicize the public comment period, will point to this site or its own, or both. 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> FWIW, I think this is a good idea, and what ICG [website] should be used for.
>> 
>>   Patrik
>> 
>>> On 5 Aug 2016, at 20:16, Alissa Cooper wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set
>> of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA
>> stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity
>> independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to
>> go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to
>> know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call
>> for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact
>> all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to
>> the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the
>> call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This
>> would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some
>> resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will
>> sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not
>> require any work from the ICG.
>>> 
>>> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call
>> for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very
>> much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to
>> using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list
>> before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
>>> 
>>> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required
>> here and she is looking into the details with her team.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Alissa
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Internal-cg mailing list
>>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
>>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org


From alissa at cooperw.in  Mon Aug  8 16:38:02 2016
From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 09:38:02 -0700
Subject: [Internal-cg] Use of ICG site for IANA IPR public comment
In-Reply-To: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
References: <A66E3764-D611-4A48-9E00-B12BDC32C6EE@cooperw.in>
Message-ID: <B334F796-EE6D-480C-9907-96E74AE817B7@cooperw.in>

Thanks all for your quick feedback. We will go forward with this plan. I have sent a note to the CWG as requested.

Alissa

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Collectively, the OCs, ICANN, and the IETF Trust have been working on a set of contractual agreements to implement the requirement from the IANA stewardship transition proposal that the IANA-related IPR be held by an entity independent from the IANA functions operator. Those agreements are due to go out for public comment next Thursday, August 11. The group would like to know if we could use the ICG web site and secretariat services to host the call for public comment on these documents. Because these agreements impact all of the communities, and because ICANN and the IETF Trust are parties to the agreements themselves, we were looking for a “neutral” place to host the call for public comment and the ICG site seemed like a logical solution. This would not require any work or input from the ICG as a body, just some resources from the secretariat. The group working on the IPR agreements will sort out how to process and analyze the comments, and that too will not require any work from the ICG.
> 
> Because time is short, we need to make a conclusion about where this call for public comment will be hosted by Monday, Aug 8. I realize this is very much a last-minute request and I apologize for that, but if anyone objects to using the ICG site and secretariat for this purpose, please say so on the list before 15:00 UTC on August 8.
> 
> I have already been in touch with Jennifer about what would be required here and she is looking into the details with her team.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Alissa
> _______________________________________________
> Internal-cg mailing list
> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org
> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org



From narelle.clark at accan.org.au  Thu Aug 18 04:52:43 2016
From: narelle.clark at accan.org.au (Narelle Clark)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:52:43 +1000
Subject: [Internal-cg] Latest from the NTIA
Message-ID: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F02177036199A@ACCAN01.accan.local>


Just in case anyone has missed the latest announcement from the NTIA:
https://www.ntia.doc.gov/other-publication/2016/letter-icann-ceo-marby-regarding-iana-stewardship-transition-status-update

Or read their blog:
https://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2016/update-iana-transition


I think you'll agree this is good news!

--


Narelle Clark
Deputy CEO
Australian Communications Consumer Action Network (ACCAN)


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From manal at tra.gov.eg  Thu Aug 18 08:27:32 2016
From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:27:32 +0000
Subject: [Internal-cg] Latest from the NTIA
In-Reply-To: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F02177036199A@ACCAN01.accan.local>
References: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F02177036199A@ACCAN01.accan.local>
Message-ID: <8e189892ae894b3790f320abeebae5f8@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG>

Good news indeed ..
Thanks Narelle ..
Kind Regards
--Manal

From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Narelle Clark
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:53 AM
To: internal-cg at ianacg.org
Subject: [Internal-cg] Latest from the NTIA


Just in case anyone has missed the latest announcement from the NTIA:
https://www.ntia.doc.gov/other-publication/2016/letter-icann-ceo-marby-regarding-iana-stewardship-transition-status-update

Or read their blog:
https://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2016/update-iana-transition


I think you'll agree this is good news!

--


Narelle Clark
Deputy CEO
Australian Communications Consumer Action Network (ACCAN)


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From daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net  Thu Aug 18 09:14:30 2016
From: daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:14:30 +0200
Subject: [Internal-cg] Latest from the NTIA
In-Reply-To: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F02177036199A@ACCAN01.accan.local>
References: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F02177036199A@ACCAN01.accan.local>
Message-ID: <f9f31cdc-33f4-fd69-2b5e-4b2dd77f16e4@ripe.net>



On 18.08.16 6:52 , Narelle Clark wrote:
>  
> 
> Just in case anyone has missed the latest announcement from the NTIA:
> https://www.ntia.doc.gov/other-publication/2016/letter-icann-ceo-marby-regarding-iana-stewardship-transition-status-update
> 
> Or read their blog:
> https://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2016/update-iana-transition
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> I think you’ll agree this is good news!

Good news indeed. However the show ain't over until October 1st.

Let's be vigilant until then and help each other to see this through
in case of any last minute snags.

Always the optimist ;-)

Daniel

Ceterum censeo: ICANN/The Community owes us (and countless others) a
decent party once the show *is* over.