From alissa at cooperw.in Wed Feb 3 20:48:07 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:48:07 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations References: Message-ID: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST > To: "CCWG Accountability" > > Dear Colleagues, > > Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. > > This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. > > Best > Mathieu > > De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] > Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 > À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' > Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' > Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > Dear all, > > Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. > > Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. > > In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. > > The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. > With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. > > We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. > > Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. > > We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: > Inspection rights have been fully addressed. > Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. > Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. > Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. > Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. > As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. > > Best regards, > Mathieu, Thomas, León > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk Wed Feb 3 22:26:23 2016 From: Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk (Martin Boyle) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 22:26:23 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> Message-ID: This makes good sense to me. Thanks Martin From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: 03 February 2016 20:48 To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. Best regards, Mathieu, Thomas, León _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Wed Feb 3 22:33:19 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 23:33:19 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> Message-ID: dEAR aLISSA, tKS . I supèport this courseof action. By the way ,we are extensively working on the matter, There dew blockage. I made and continue to make evry efforts that the obstacle be removed. I made a package deal to resolve one of the moszt contentious issue. Working between 12-14 hours in order that all obstacle of WS1 be removed so that Transition timeline be fully respected. I am also making every effort to bridgeing gaps between various entities Regards Kavouss 2016-02-03 23:26 GMT+01:00 Martin Boyle : > This makes good sense to me. Thanks > > > > Martin > > > > *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf Of > *Alissa Cooper > *Sent:* 03 February 2016 20:48 > *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group > *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for > Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > > > Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the > formal statement from the co-chairs here: > https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs > > > > The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering > organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, > Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: > > > > (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met > as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG > a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. > > > > (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back > from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal > then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not > have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the > timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. > (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via > email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) > > > > I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a > conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with > interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we > have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the > ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a > call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final > proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to > the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to > the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day > matters at this point. > > > > Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. > > > > Alissa > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > *From: *Mathieu Weill > > *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval > of WS1 Recommendations* > > *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST > > *To: *"CCWG Accountability" > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Please find below for your information the note sent today to the > Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our > meeting #82. > > > > This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. > > > > Best > > Mathieu > > > > *De :* Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] > *Envoyé :* mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 > *À :* 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; > 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; > 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' > *Cc :* 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa > Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' > *Objet :* Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 > Recommendations > > > > Dear all, > > > > Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement > > updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 > Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the > CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. > > > > Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will > relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, > an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval > by the Chartering Organizations. > > > > In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have > announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering > Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 > Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. > > > > The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and > we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your > discussions before and during ICANN55. > > With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can > deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to > Marrakech to please do so. > > > > We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your > continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 > Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental > report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have > been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our > revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a > simple and straightforward approval process. > > > > Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the > ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period > of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. > > > > We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work > progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board > comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest > concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been > discussed: > > - Inspection rights have been fully addressed. > - Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. > - Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. > - Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted > its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. > - Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. > > As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any > questions or concerns. > > > > Best regards, > > Mathieu, Thomas, León > > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manal at tra.gov.eg Thu Feb 4 05:52:14 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 05:52:14 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <9c401787ce194c77a770b830bea65369@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Thanks Alissa, to you Patrik and Mohamed .. Like Martin, this makes perfect sense to me .. Thanks Mr. Arasteh for your tireless efforts on this issue .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 12:33 AM To: Martin Boyle Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations dEAR aLISSA, tKS . I supèport this courseof action. By the way ,we are extensively working on the matter, There dew blockage. I made and continue to make evry efforts that the obstacle be removed. I made a package deal to resolve one of the moszt contentious issue. Working between 12-14 hours in order that all obstacle of WS1 be removed so that Transition timeline be fully respected. I am also making every effort to bridgeing gaps between various entities Regards Kavouss 2016-02-03 23:26 GMT+01:00 Martin Boyle >: This makes good sense to me. Thanks Martin From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: 03 February 2016 20:48 To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. 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URL: From narelle.clark at accan.org.au Thu Feb 4 07:12:08 2016 From: narelle.clark at accan.org.au (Narelle Clark) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 18:12:08 +1100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE170F1@ACCAN01.accan.local> The ICG certainly does not want to be the source of any delay. I thought we were going to schedule a call for both before and after ICANN55? Then cancel or keep as applies. Narelle From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2016 7:48 AM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. Best regards, Mathieu, Thomas, León _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net Thu Feb 4 08:45:24 2016 From: daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:45:24 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <56B30FA4.9080500@ripe.net> We do not need another meeting at all. Our document is done, we already agreed on it. All that is preventing us to send it is our commitment to wait for CWG to confirm that its requirements are met. Our chair can send it as soon as they receive that confirmation. So there needs to be no delay at all. I propose that we proceed like this without another formal meeting. Daniel PS: Nothing prevents us to have an informal meeting, with champagne, at some time in the future for auld lang syne. Daniel From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 08:49:54 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:49:54 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <56B30FA4.9080500@ripe.net> References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> <56B30FA4.9080500@ripe.net> Message-ID: Dear Daniel, Let us have the first meeting first. Depending on the resuéts of that meeting and the outcome of CCWG in form of Supplement, we decide on the need for the second one. I thank the fall back position proposed by Alissa seems good Regards Kavouss 2016-02-04 9:45 GMT+01:00 Daniel Karrenberg : > > We do not need another meeting at all. > > Our document is done, we already agreed on it. > > All that is preventing us to send it is our commitment to wait for CWG > to confirm that its requirements are met. Our chair can send it as soon > as they receive that confirmation. So there needs to be no delay at all. > > I propose that we proceed like this without another formal meeting. > > Daniel > > PS: Nothing prevents us to have an informal meeting, with champagne, at > some time in the future for auld lang syne. > > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Thu Feb 4 13:25:58 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:25:58 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE170F1@ACCAN01.accan.local> References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE170F1@ACCAN01.accan.local> Message-ID: <56B35166.9080806@oracle.com> I'm fine with scheduling a call when you guys feel we are best positioned to have the answer of CWG. That being said, I'm not sure what if any deliberation is needed if CWG says that their dependencies are satisfied. Joe On 2/4/2016 2:12 AM, Narelle Clark wrote: > > The ICG certainly does not want to be the source of any delay. > > I thought we were going to schedule a call for both before and after > ICANN55? > > Then cancel or keep as applies. > > Narelle > > *From:*Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf > Of *Alissa Cooper > *Sent:* Thursday, 4 February 2016 7:48 AM > *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group > *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for > Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as > the formal statement from the co-chairs here: > https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs > > The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering > organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of > this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: > > (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are > met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give > the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. > > (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard > back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final > proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to > Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish > our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it > gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of > our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would > prefer to do so on a call.) > > I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of > scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can > find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does > slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by > March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any > additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week > to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing > that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even > if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the > meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. > > Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. > > Alissa > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Mathieu Weill > > > *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org > Approval of WS1 Recommendations* > > *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST > > *To: *"CCWG Accountability" > > > Dear Colleagues, > > Please find below for your information the note sent today to the > Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during > our meeting #82. > > This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. > > Best > > Mathieu > > *De :*Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] > *Envoyé :*mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 > *À :*'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; > 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik > Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; > 'Lise Fuhr' > *Cc :*'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa > Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' > *Objet :*Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 > Recommendations > > Dear all, > > Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued aformal statement > updating > the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and > providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be > taking in developing the supplemental draft. > > Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report > will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, > and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary > before approval by the Chartering Organizations. > > In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we > have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our > Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all > Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. > > The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently > and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you > plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. > > With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can > deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to > Marrakech to please do so. > > We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your > continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 > Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the > supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all > potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they > can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the > Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. > > Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked > the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their > review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. > > We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work > progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand > Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public > interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have > been discussed: > > * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. > * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. > * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. > * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has > adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. > * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. > > As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any > questions or concerns. > > Best regards, > > Mathieu, Thomas, León > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org > > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From milton at gatech.edu Thu Feb 4 14:15:12 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 14:15:12 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <56B35166.9080806@oracle.com> References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE170F1@ACCAN01.accan.local> <56B35166.9080806@oracle.com> Message-ID: Agree, a call is a low-cost way to simply review the CWG confirmation and make sure that it is indeed a confirmation that their dependencies are satisfied. When we say the "end of the Marrakech meeting week", however, I hope we don't mean the Friday, as I and probably many others will be traveling that day --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:26 AM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations I'm fine with scheduling a call when you guys feel we are best positioned to have the answer of CWG. That being said, I'm not sure what if any deliberation is needed if CWG says that their dependencies are satisfied. Joe On 2/4/2016 2:12 AM, Narelle Clark wrote: The ICG certainly does not want to be the source of any delay. I thought we were going to schedule a call for both before and after ICANN55? Then cancel or keep as applies. Narelle From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2016 7:48 AM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board's comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN's Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. Best regards, Mathieu, Thomas, León _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 14:18:40 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 15:18:40 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <56B35166.9080806@oracle.com> References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE170F1@ACCAN01.accan.local> <56B35166.9080806@oracle.com> Message-ID: Dear Joe, Thank you very much for comments Nevertheless, there are issues that we, the ICG Liaison may bring to your attention resulted from Supplement Report .As you know CCWG has scheduled a f2f meeting on 04 March in Marrakesh. It would be good to reflect on the supplement and we, the Liaisons report back the ICG comments. By the way the extraordinary/ devoted call for REC 11( and its impact on Recs 1 and 2)was held today at 12,00 UTC, This meeting favorably considered the compromise package that I had submitted( jointly prepared by me and Beckie Burr) .That compromise is being posted on CCWG wikie / mailing list and Chartering Organizations are requested to provide their final comment for another call scheduled on Monday 08 Feb Regards Kavouss 2016-02-04 14:25 GMT+01:00 Joseph Alhadeff : > I'm fine with scheduling a call when you guys feel we are best positioned > to have the answer of CWG. That being said, I'm not sure what if any > deliberation is needed if CWG says that their dependencies are satisfied. > > Joe > > > On 2/4/2016 2:12 AM, Narelle Clark wrote: > > The ICG certainly does not want to be the source of any delay. > > > > I thought we were going to schedule a call for both before and after > ICANN55? > > > > Then cancel or keep as applies. > > > > > > Narelle > > > > > > *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Alissa Cooper > *Sent:* Thursday, 4 February 2016 7:48 AM > *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group > *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for > Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > > > Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the > formal statement from the co-chairs here: > https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs > > > > The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering > organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, > Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: > > > > (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met > as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG > a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. > > > > (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back > from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal > then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not > have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the > timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. > (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via > email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) > > > > I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a > conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with > interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we > have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the > ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a > call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final > proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to > the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to > the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day > matters at this point. > > > > Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. > > > > Alissa > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > *From: *Mathieu Weill > > *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval > of WS1 Recommendations* > > *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST > > *To: *"CCWG Accountability" > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Please find below for your information the note sent today to the > Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our > meeting #82. > > > > This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. > > > > Best > > Mathieu > > > > *De :* Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] > *Envoyé :* mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 > *À :* 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; > 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; > 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' > *Cc :* 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa > Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' > *Objet :* Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 > Recommendations > > > > Dear all, > > > > Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement > > updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 > Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the > CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. > > > > Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will > relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, > an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval > by the Chartering Organizations. > > > > In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have > announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering > Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 > Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. > > > > The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and > we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your > discussions before and during ICANN55. > > With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can > deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to > Marrakech to please do so. > > > > We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your > continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 > Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental > report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have > been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our > revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a > simple and straightforward approval process. > > > > Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the > ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period > of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. > > > > We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work > progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board > comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest > concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been > discussed: > > - Inspection rights have been fully addressed. > - Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. > - Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. > - Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted > its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. > - Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. > > As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any > questions or concerns. > > > > Best regards, > > Mathieu, Thomas, León > > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing listInternal-cg at mm.ianacg.orghttp://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Thu Feb 4 14:36:57 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:36:57 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE170F1@ACCAN01.accan.local> <56B35166.9080806@oracle.com> Message-ID: <56B36209.8060105@oracle.com> Dear Kavouss: Thanks for the clarification and your continued reporting to us on the developments as they occur. Best- Joe On 2/4/2016 9:18 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > Dear Joe, > > Thank you very much for comments > > Nevertheless, there are issues that we, the ICG Liaison may bring to > your attention resulted from Supplement Report .As you know CCWG has > scheduled a f2f meeting on 04 March in Marrakesh. It would be good to > reflect on the supplement and we, the Liaisons report back the ICG > comments. > > By the way the extraordinary/ devoted call for REC 11( and its impact > on Recs 1 and 2)was held today at 12,00 UTC, This meeting favorably > considered the compromise package that I had submitted( jointly > prepared by me and Beckie Burr) .That compromise is being posted on > CCWG wikie / mailing list and Chartering Organizations are requested > to provide their final comment for another call scheduled on Monday 08 > Feb > > Regards > > Kavouss > > > > 2016-02-04 14:25 GMT+01:00 Joseph Alhadeff >: > > I'm fine with scheduling a call when you guys feel we are best > positioned to have the answer of CWG. That being said, I'm not > sure what if any deliberation is needed if CWG says that their > dependencies are satisfied. > > Joe > > > On 2/4/2016 2:12 AM, Narelle Clark wrote: >> >> The ICG certainly does not want to be the source of any delay. >> >> I thought we were going to schedule a call for both before and >> after ICANN55? >> >> Then cancel or keep as applies. >> >> Narelle >> >> *From:*Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Alissa Cooper >> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 February 2016 7:48 AM >> *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for >> Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as >> well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: >> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs >> >> The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering >> organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light >> of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the >> following: >> >> (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements >> are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, >> and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can >> respond promptly. >> >> (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have >> heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of >> our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in >> transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering >> orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel >> this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we >> could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, >> but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) >> >> I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of >> scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we >> can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG >> timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a >> response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in >> a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call >> at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final >> proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get >> bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal >> gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly >> believe that every single day matters at this point. >> >> Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. >> >> Alissa >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Mathieu Weill > > >> >> *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org >> Approval of WS1 Recommendations* >> >> *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST >> >> *To: *"CCWG Accountability" >> > > >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> Please find below for your information the note sent today to the >> Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions >> during our meeting #82. >> >> This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. >> >> Best >> >> Mathieu >> >> *De :*Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] >> *Envoyé :*mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 >> *À :*'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan >> Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti >> Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; >> 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' >> *Cc :*'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa >> Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; >> 'ACCT-STAFF' >> *Objet :*Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 >> Recommendations >> >> Dear all, >> >> Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued aformal statement >> updating >> the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations >> and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will >> be taking in developing the supplemental draft. >> >> Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft >> Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than >> content, and as such, an additional public comment period will >> not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. >> >> In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding >> issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental >> report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration >> and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 >> in Marrakech. >> >> The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules >> differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this >> into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. >> >> With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that >> can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations >> prior to Marrakech to please do so. >> >> We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for >> your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work >> Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue >> as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping >> that all potential issues have been raised to the >> CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. >> Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple >> and straightforward approval process. >> >> Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have >> asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan >> their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and >> submission to NTIA. >> >> We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our >> work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to >> understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential >> global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s >> comments in December, have been discussed: >> >> * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. >> * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. >> * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. >> * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has >> adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. >> * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. >> >> As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have >> any questions or concerns. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mathieu, Thomas, León >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org >> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjs at dyalog.net Thu Feb 4 15:33:36 2016 From: jjs at dyalog.net (Subrenat, Jean-Jacques) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 16:33:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <56B36209.8060105@oracle.com> Message-ID: <1402573906.60.1454600015254.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> Thanks Alissa, I concur with your proposal. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Joseph Alhadeff" À: "Kavouss Arasteh" Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Envoyé: Jeudi 4 Février 2016 15:36:57 Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear Kavouss: Thanks for the clarification and your continued reporting to us on the developments as they occur. Best- Joe On 2/4/2016 9:18 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: Dear Joe, Thank you very much for comments Nevertheless, there are issues that we, the ICG Liaison may bring to your attention resulted from Supplement Report .As you know CCWG has scheduled a f2f meeting on 04 March in Marrakesh. It would be good to reflect on the supplement and we, the Liaisons report back the ICG comments. By the way the extraordinary/ devoted call for REC 11( and its impact on Recs 1 and 2)was held today at 12,00 UTC, This meeting favorably considered the compromise package that I had submitted( jointly prepared by me and Beckie Burr) .That compromise is being posted on CCWG wikie / mailing list and Chartering Organizations are requested to provide their final comment for another call scheduled on Monday 08 Feb Regards Kavouss 2016-02-04 14:25 GMT+01:00 Joseph Alhadeff < joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com > : I'm fine with scheduling a call when you guys feel we are best positioned to have the answer of CWG. That being said, I'm not sure what if any deliberation is needed if CWG says that their dependencies are satisfied. Joe On 2/4/2016 2:12 AM, Narelle Clark wrote: The ICG certainly does not want to be the source of any delay. I thought we were going to schedule a call for both before and after ICANN55? Then cancel or keep as applies. Narelle From: Internal-cg [ mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org ] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2016 7:48 AM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill < mathieu.weill at afnic.fr > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" < accountability-cross-community at icann.org > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [ mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. Best regards, Mathieu, Thomas, León _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From mnuduma at yahoo.com Fri Feb 5 03:19:13 2016 From: mnuduma at yahoo.com (Mary Uduma) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 03:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <1402573906.60.1454600015254.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> References: <56B36209.8060105@oracle.com> <1402573906.60.1454600015254.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> Message-ID: <752443870.2163739.1454642353692.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I support the Chairs' proposal as well as Kavous' briefing proposal. A call after ICANN 55, not the Friday as mentioned by Milton, is ok by me.Kudos to you Kavous for the great work you have been doing since the Transition started.  An informal drink in Marrakesh, for ICG members who would be there, will certainly be fun. Mary  Uduma On Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:35 PM, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" wrote: Thanks Alissa, I concur with your proposal. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Joseph Alhadeff" À: "Kavouss Arasteh" Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Envoyé: Jeudi 4 Février 2016 15:36:57 Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear Kavouss: Thanks for the clarification and your continued reporting to us on the developments as they occur. Best- Joe On 2/4/2016 9:18 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: Dear Joe, Thank you very much for comments Nevertheless, there are issues that we, the ICG Liaison may bring to your attention resulted from Supplement Report .As you know CCWG has scheduled a f2f meeting on 04 March in Marrakesh. It would be good to reflect on the supplement and we, the Liaisons report back the ICG comments. By the way the extraordinary/ devoted call for REC 11( and its impact on Recs 1 and 2)was held today at 12,00 UTC, This meeting favorably considered the compromise package that I had submitted( jointly prepared by me and Beckie Burr) .That compromise is being posted on CCWG wikie / mailing list and Chartering Organizations are requested to provide their final comment for another call scheduled on Monday 08 Feb Regards Kavouss 2016-02-04 14:25 GMT+01:00 Joseph Alhadeff < joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com > : I'm fine with scheduling a call when you guys feel we are best positioned to have the answer of CWG. That being said, I'm not sure what if any deliberation is needed if CWG says that their dependencies are satisfied. Joe On 2/4/2016 2:12 AM, Narelle Clark wrote: The ICG certainly does not want to be the source of any delay. I thought we were going to schedule a call for both before and after ICANN55? Then cancel or keep as applies. Narelle From: Internal-cg [ mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org ] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2016 7:48 AM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill < mathieu.weill at afnic.fr > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" < accountability-cross-community at icann.org > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [ mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed:     * Inspection rights have been fully addressed.     * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed.     * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed.     * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist.     * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. 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URL: From Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de Fri Feb 5 06:22:18 2016 From: Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de (Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:22:18 +0200 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <752443870.2163739.1454642353692.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <56B36209.8060105@oracle.com> <1402573906.60.1454600015254.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> <752443870.2163739.1454642353692.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I agree, too. Wolf-Ulrich Sent from my personal phone > Am 05.02.2016 um 05:19 schrieb Mary Uduma : > > I support the Chairs' proposal as well as Kavous' briefing proposal. A call after ICANN 55, not the Friday as mentioned by Milton, is ok by me. > Kudos to you Kavous for the great work you have been doing since the Transition started. > > An informal drink in Marrakesh, for ICG members who would be there, will certainly be fun. > > Mary Uduma > > > On Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:35 PM, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" wrote: > > > Thanks Alissa, I concur with your proposal. > Best regards, > Jean-Jacques. > > > > > > > ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Joseph Alhadeff" > À: "Kavouss Arasteh" > Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org > Envoyé: Jeudi 4 Février 2016 15:36:57 > Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > > Dear Kavouss: > > Thanks for the clarification and your continued reporting to us on the developments as they occur. > > Best- > > Joe > > > On 2/4/2016 9:18 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > > > > > Dear Joe, > > > Thank you very much for comments > > Nevertheless, there are issues that we, the ICG Liaison may bring to your attention resulted from Supplement Report .As you know CCWG has scheduled a f2f meeting on 04 March in Marrakesh. It would be good to reflect on the supplement and we, the Liaisons report back the ICG comments. > > By the way the extraordinary/ devoted call for REC 11( and its impact on Recs 1 and 2)was held today at 12,00 UTC, This meeting favorably considered the compromise package that I had submitted( jointly prepared by me and Beckie Burr) .That compromise is being posted on CCWG wikie / mailing list and Chartering Organizations are requested to provide their final comment for another call scheduled on Monday 08 Feb > > Regards > > Kavouss > > > > > 2016-02-04 14:25 GMT+01:00 Joseph Alhadeff < joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com > : > > > > I'm fine with scheduling a call when you guys feel we are best positioned to have the answer of CWG. That being said, I'm not sure what if any deliberation is needed if CWG says that their dependencies are satisfied. > > Joe > > > > > On 2/4/2016 2:12 AM, Narelle Clark wrote: > > > > > > > > The ICG certainly does not want to be the source of any delay. > > > > I thought we were going to schedule a call for both before and after ICANN55? > > > > Then cancel or keep as applies. > > > > > > Narelle > > > > > > > > > From: Internal-cg [ mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org ] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper > Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2016 7:48 AM > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > > > Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs > > > > > > The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: > > > > > > > (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. > > > > > > (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) > > > > > > I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. > > > > > > Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. > > > > > > Alissa > > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > From: Mathieu Weill < mathieu.weill at afnic.fr > > > > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > > Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST > > > To: "CCWG Accountability" < accountability-cross-community at icann.org > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. > > > > > > This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. > > > > > > Best > > > Mathieu > > > > > > > > De : Mathieu Weill [ mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] > Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 > À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' > Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' > Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. > > > > > > > > Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. > > > > > > > > In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. > > > > > > > > The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. > > > > With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. > > > > > > > > We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. > > > > > > > > Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. > > > > > > > > We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: > > * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. > * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. > * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. > * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. > * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. > > > > > As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Mathieu, Thomas, León > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net Fri Feb 5 07:55:31 2016 From: daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:55:31 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <56B36209.8060105@oracle.com> <1402573906.60.1454600015254.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> <752443870.2163739.1454642353692.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <56B45573.3020102@ripe.net> Candidly as usual: I am smelling that someone is considering to open a discussion to change our proposal at the last minute. We all should be clear that ICG cannot do that without consulting all operational communities again which would cause a considerable delay. We should project that message. Personally I would suspect that anyone proposing a last minute change to what we have already agreed has no other goal than to sabotage the whole transition by delaying it beyond a feasible point for implementation. Daniel From jjs at dyalog.net Fri Feb 5 08:37:24 2016 From: jjs at dyalog.net (Subrenat, Jean-Jacques) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 09:37:24 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <56B45573.3020102@ripe.net> Message-ID: <1116350188.18.1454661439743.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> Dear Daniel, perturbed by your latest message, I would appreciate your sharing with us your doubt or fear: what last-minute fundamental change could occur which might "sabotage the whole transition"? Best regards, Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Daniel Karrenberg" À: internal-cg at ianacg.org Envoyé: Vendredi 5 Février 2016 08:55:31 Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Candidly as usual: I am smelling that someone is considering to open a discussion to change our proposal at the last minute. We all should be clear that ICG cannot do that without consulting all operational communities again which would cause a considerable delay. We should project that message. Personally I would suspect that anyone proposing a last minute change to what we have already agreed has no other goal than to sabotage the whole transition by delaying it beyond a feasible point for implementation. Daniel _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net Fri Feb 5 09:08:51 2016 From: daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 10:08:51 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <1116350188.18.1454661439743.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> References: <1116350188.18.1454661439743.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> Message-ID: <56B466A3.4040002@ripe.net> Some messages in this thread smelled like preparing for of a change to our already agreed proposal. What other purpose could a formal meeting of ICG have? If that were to occur the resulting delay would be sufficient to sabotage the whole transition 'by delaying it beyond a feasible point for implementation'. No fundamental change, just more delay. NB: In my opinion delaying has been the primary tactic used by both open and clandestine opponents of the whole thing. Enough said Daniel On 5.02.16 9:37 , Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote: > Dear Daniel, > perturbed by your latest message, I would appreciate your sharing with us your doubt or fear: what last-minute fundamental change could occur which might "sabotage the whole transition"? > Best regards, > Jean-Jacques. > > > > > > > > ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Daniel Karrenberg" > À: internal-cg at ianacg.org > Envoyé: Vendredi 5 Février 2016 08:55:31 > Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > Candidly as usual: > > I am smelling that someone is considering to open a discussion to change > our proposal at the last minute. We all should be clear that ICG cannot > do that without consulting all operational communities again which would > cause a considerable delay. We should project that message. > > Personally I would suspect that anyone proposing a last minute change to > what we have already agreed has no other goal than to sabotage the whole > transition by delaying it beyond a feasible point for implementation. > > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > From alissa at cooperw.in Fri Feb 5 13:59:20 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 05:59:20 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <56B466A3.4040002@ripe.net> References: <1116350188.18.1454661439743.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> <56B466A3.4040002@ripe.net> Message-ID: Daniel, It is hard to predict what will happen in the coming weeks, but perhaps I can explain my thinking better by example. Suppose we ask the CWG to confirm whether or not the CCWG proposal meets the CWG’s requirements prior to ICANN 55 and the answer that we receive is “yes, it does.” In that case we would need to edit the portions of our proposal where we had left highlighted placeholders to reflect this confirmation. For an example of how we might do that, see the attached document (which is just something I had put together on my local machine). Personally, I would have no problem approving something like the attached for forwarding onto NTIA via the Board via an email approval. But to date I’ve noticed that the ICG (1) prefers to make weighty decisions via teleconference, and (2) likes to get precise agreement about every word we use. So while I personally would happily do the approval via email, I suspect having a call will expedite the approval process. And in any event it’s prudent to schedule a call and then if we try to approve by email and succeed we can always cancel it. I just wanted to get the call on the calendar. Of course, there are other possibilities than receiving a “yes, it does” answer from the CWG prior to ICANN 55. We might receive that answer later, or we might receive a more detailed answer that we would want to reflect differently in our proposal than what is attached here. Again, I think it is prudent for us to schedule time to approve the precise set of edits we would need to the highlighted placeholders in the document without incurring delay. Does that clarify? Best, Alissa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 951124 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > On Feb 5, 2016, at 1:08 AM, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > > Some messages in this thread smelled like preparing for of a change to > our already agreed proposal. What other purpose could a formal meeting > of ICG have? If that were to occur the resulting delay would be > sufficient to sabotage the whole transition 'by delaying it beyond a > feasible point for implementation'. No fundamental change, just more delay. > > NB: In my opinion delaying has been the primary tactic used by both open > and clandestine opponents of the whole thing. > > Enough said > > Daniel > > On 5.02.16 9:37 , Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote: >> Dear Daniel, >> perturbed by your latest message, I would appreciate your sharing with us your doubt or fear: what last-minute fundamental change could occur which might "sabotage the whole transition"? >> Best regards, >> Jean-Jacques. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Mail original ----- >> De: "Daniel Karrenberg" >> À: internal-cg at ianacg.org >> Envoyé: Vendredi 5 Février 2016 08:55:31 >> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> Candidly as usual: >> >> I am smelling that someone is considering to open a discussion to change >> our proposal at the last minute. We all should be clear that ICG cannot >> do that without consulting all operational communities again which would >> cause a considerable delay. We should project that message. >> >> Personally I would suspect that anyone proposing a last minute change to >> what we have already agreed has no other goal than to sabotage the whole >> transition by delaying it beyond a feasible point for implementation. >> >> Daniel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Fri Feb 5 14:11:19 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 09:11:19 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <1116350188.18.1454661439743.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> <56B466A3.4040002@ripe.net> Message-ID: <56B4AD87.9050003@oracle.com> Looking at a middle path between Daniel and Alissa... Perhaps the way to address the "yes" issue is to to highlight now the text changes that would occur in the case of an unqualified yes. If we were to agree on them in advance (with whatever, if any, final review may be appropriate by the operational community reps on the combined proposal) then the call might be superfluous and we could assure there is no delay. Anything but the CWG's full and unqualified yes across all dependencies (for example yes, but...) or the emergence of a new unforeseen issue would require a call. We could still schedule the call now and then decide it's not needed... Best- Joe On 2/5/2016 8:59 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > Daniel, > > It is hard to predict what will happen in the coming weeks, but perhaps I can explain my thinking better by example. Suppose we ask the CWG to confirm whether or not the CCWG proposal meets the CWG’s requirements prior to ICANN 55 and the answer that we receive is “yes, it does.” In that case we would need to edit the portions of our proposal where we had left highlighted placeholders to reflect this confirmation. For an example of how we might do that, see the attached document (which is just something I had put together on my local machine). > > Personally, I would have no problem approving something like the attached for forwarding onto NTIA via the Board via an email approval. But to date I’ve noticed that the ICG (1) prefers to make weighty decisions via teleconference, and (2) likes to get precise agreement about every word we use. So while I personally would happily do the approval via email, I suspect having a call will expedite the approval process. And in any event it’s prudent to schedule a call and then if we try to approve by email and succeed we can always cancel it. I just wanted to get the call on the calendar. > > Of course, there are other possibilities than receiving a “yes, it does” answer from the CWG prior to ICANN 55. We might receive that answer later, or we might receive a more detailed answer that we would want to reflect differently in our proposal than what is attached here. Again, I think it is prudent for us to schedule time to approve the precise set of edits we would need to the highlighted placeholders in the document without incurring delay. > > Does that clarify? > > Best, > Alissa > > > >> On Feb 5, 2016, at 1:08 AM, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: >> >> Some messages in this thread smelled like preparing for of a change to >> our already agreed proposal. What other purpose could a formal meeting >> of ICG have? If that were to occur the resulting delay would be >> sufficient to sabotage the whole transition 'by delaying it beyond a >> feasible point for implementation'. No fundamental change, just more delay. >> >> NB: In my opinion delaying has been the primary tactic used by both open >> and clandestine opponents of the whole thing. >> >> Enough said >> >> Daniel >> >> On 5.02.16 9:37 , Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote: >>> Dear Daniel, >>> perturbed by your latest message, I would appreciate your sharing with us your doubt or fear: what last-minute fundamental change could occur which might "sabotage the whole transition"? >>> Best regards, >>> Jean-Jacques. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Mail original ----- >>> De: "Daniel Karrenberg" >>> À: internal-cg at ianacg.org >>> Envoyé: Vendredi 5 Février 2016 08:55:31 >>> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >>> >>> Candidly as usual: >>> >>> I am smelling that someone is considering to open a discussion to change >>> our proposal at the last minute. We all should be clear that ICG cannot >>> do that without consulting all operational communities again which would >>> cause a considerable delay. We should project that message. >>> >>> Personally I would suspect that anyone proposing a last minute change to >>> what we have already agreed has no other goal than to sabotage the whole >>> transition by delaying it beyond a feasible point for implementation. >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All that is preventing us to send it is our commitment to wait for CWG to confirm that its requirements are met. Our chair can send it as soon as they receive that confirmation. So there needs to be no delay at all. I propose that we proceed like this without another formal meeting. Daniel PS: Nothing prevents us to have an informal meeting, with champagne, at some time in the future for auld lang syne. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From milton at gatech.edu Fri Feb 5 21:44:31 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 21:44:31 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <56B45573.3020102@ripe.net> References: <56B36209.8060105@oracle.com> <1402573906.60.1454600015254.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> <752443870.2163739.1454642353692.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <56B45573.3020102@ripe.net> Message-ID: I am smelling a bad case of nerves ;-) > -----Original Message----- > > I am smelling that someone is considering to open a discussion to change our > proposal at the last minute. We all should be clear that ICG cannot do that > without consulting all operational communities again which would cause a > considerable delay. We should project that message. > > Personally I would suspect that anyone proposing a last minute change to > what we have already agreed has no other goal than to sabotage the whole > transition by delaying it beyond a feasible point for implementation. > > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From manal at tra.gov.eg Sat Feb 6 17:09:00 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 17:09:00 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] In-Reply-To: References: <1116350188.18.1454661439743.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@macbook-air-de-jean-jacques-2.home> <56B466A3.4040002@ripe.net> Message-ID: <9c27deb927ef4cf1914935508040b812@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Thanks Alissa .. Again this make perfect sense to me .. And as mentioned by you and other colleagues, anything we agree that we don't need can still be canceled .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 3:59 PM To: Daniel Karrenberg Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] Daniel, It is hard to predict what will happen in the coming weeks, but perhaps I can explain my thinking better by example. Suppose we ask the CWG to confirm whether or not the CCWG proposal meets the CWG’s requirements prior to ICANN 55 and the answer that we receive is “yes, it does.” In that case we would need to edit the portions of our proposal where we had left highlighted placeholders to reflect this confirmation. For an example of how we might do that, see the attached document (which is just something I had put together on my local machine). Personally, I would have no problem approving something like the attached for forwarding onto NTIA via the Board via an email approval. But to date I’ve noticed that the ICG (1) prefers to make weighty decisions via teleconference, and (2) likes to get precise agreement about every word we use. So while I personally would happily do the approval via email, I suspect having a call will expedite the approval process. And in any event it’s prudent to schedule a call and then if we try to approve by email and succeed we can always cancel it. I just wanted to get the call on the calendar. Of course, there are other possibilities than receiving a “yes, it does” answer from the CWG prior to ICANN 55. We might receive that answer later, or we might receive a more detailed answer that we would want to reflect differently in our proposal than what is attached here. Again, I think it is prudent for us to schedule time to approve the precise set of edits we would need to the highlighted placeholders in the document without incurring delay. Does that clarify? Best, Alissa From narelle.clark at accan.org.au Mon Feb 8 04:18:27 2016 From: narelle.clark at accan.org.au (Narelle Clark) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 15:18:27 +1100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Latest NTIA report as an FYI Message-ID: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE17242@ACCAN01.accan.local> The NTI has published its latest report on the transition: https://www.ntia.doc.gov/report/2016/fifth-report-iana-functions-transition Fifth Quarterly Report on the Transition of the Stewardship of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Functions February 05, 2016 NTIA provides quarterly reports on all aspects of the proposed transition of the U.S. government's stewardship role over the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) functions. NTIA's previous reports are posted here. 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The Australian Communications Consumer Action Network does not warrant that the information in this e-mail or any attachments are free from any viruses, defects, errors, interception or interference. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alissa at cooperw.in Mon Feb 8 17:00:35 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 09:00:35 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations In-Reply-To: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> References: <50BAE1DA-AB73-45DF-AA49-7C1B4B724E58@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <45405D4F-8EED-4BE8-8E06-63229D5917F4@cooperw.in> It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call on March 1. Thanks, Alissa > On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > > Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs > > The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: > > (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. > > (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) > > I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. > > Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. > > Alissa > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Mathieu Weill > >> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST >> To: "CCWG Accountability" > >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. >> >> This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. >> >> Best >> Mathieu >> >> De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] >> Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 >> À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' >> Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' >> Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> Dear all, >> >> Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. >> >> Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. >> >> In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. >> >> The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. >> With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. >> >> We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. >> >> Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. >> >> We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: >> Inspection rights have been fully addressed. >> Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. >> Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. >> Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. >> Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. >> As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. >> >> Best regards, >> Mathieu, Thomas, León >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jen at icgsec.asia Tue Feb 9 05:13:28 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 00:13:28 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference Message-ID: <01b501d162f8$9dede4c0$d9c9ae40$@icgsec.asia> Dear All, Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): Tuesday, March 1 03:00 - 04:00 04:00 - 05:00 05:00 - 06:00 Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! Best Regards, Jennifer From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call on March 1. Thanks, Alissa On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper > wrote: Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [ mailto:weill at afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. Best regards, Mathieu, Thomas, León _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 10:49:55 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:49:55 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference In-Reply-To: <01b501d162f8$9dede4c0$d9c9ae40$@icgsec.asia> References: <01b501d162f8$9dede4c0$d9c9ae40$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: Dear Jennifer, 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. KAVOUSS 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung : > Dear All, > > > > Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: > > > > http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 > > > > For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): > > > > Tuesday, March 1 > > 03:00 - 04:00 > > 04:00 - 05:00 > > 05:00 - 06:00 > > > > Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > > > *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf Of > *Alissa Cooper > *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM > *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group > *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for > Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > > > It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about > this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. > > > > Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call > on March 1. > > > > Thanks, > > Alissa > > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > > > > Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the > formal statement from the co-chairs here: > https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs > > > > The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering > organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, > Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: > > > > (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met > as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG > a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. > > > > (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back > from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal > then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not > have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the > timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. > (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via > email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) > > > > I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a > conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with > interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we > have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the > ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a > call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final > proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to > the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to > the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day > matters at this point. > > > > Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. > > > > Alissa > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > *From: *Mathieu Weill > > *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval > of WS1 Recommendations* > > *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST > > *To: *"CCWG Accountability" > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Please find below for your information the note sent today to the > Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our > meeting #82. > > > > This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. > > > > Best > > Mathieu > > > > *De :* Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] > *Envoyé :* mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 > *À :* 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; > 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; > 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' > *Cc :* 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa > Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' > *Objet :* Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 > Recommendations > > > > Dear all, > > > > Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement > > updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 > Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the > CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. > > > > Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will > relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, > an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval > by the Chartering Organizations. > > > > In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have > announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering > Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 > Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. > > > > The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and > we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your > discussions before and during ICANN55. > > With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can > deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to > Marrakech to please do so. > > > > We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your > continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 > Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental > report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have > been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our > revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a > simple and straightforward approval process. > > > > Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the > ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period > of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. > > > > We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work > progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board > comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest > concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been > discussed: > > - Inspection rights have been fully addressed. > - Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. > - Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. > - Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted > its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. > - Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. > > As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any > questions or concerns. > > > > Best regards, > > Mathieu, Thomas, León > > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Tue Feb 9 11:35:23 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 06:35:23 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference In-Reply-To: References: <01b501d162f8$9dede4c0$d9c9ae40$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <56B9CEFB.9080303@oracle.com> Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not generate a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > Dear Jennifer, > 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not > be able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. > KAVOUSS > > 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung >: > > Dear All, > > Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG > call: > > http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 > > For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all > times UTC): > > Tuesday, March 1 > > 03:00 - 04:00 > > 04:00 - 05:00 > > 05:00 - 06:00 > > Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! > > Best Regards, > > Jennifer > > *From:*Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Alissa Cooper > *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM > *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group > > *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for > Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an > opinion about this are ok with this course of action, so we will > proceed. > > Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for > a call on March 1. > > Thanks, > > Alissa > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper > wrote: > > Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as > well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: > https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs > > The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the > chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN > 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG > needs to do the following: > > (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their > requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the > chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to > do that so they can respond promptly. > > (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have > heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of > our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in > transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the > chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, > we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. > (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal > strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do > so on a call.) > > I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of > scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if > we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG > timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a > response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be > in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule > a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our > final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it > may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the > CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the > meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at > this point. > > Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. > > Alissa > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Mathieu Weill > > > *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for > Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations* > > *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST > > *To: *"CCWG Accountability" > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > Please find below for your information the note sent today > to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our > discussions during our meeting #82. > > This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. > > Best > > Mathieu > > *De :*Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] > *Envoyé :*mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 > *À :*'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan > Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; > 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; > 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' > *Cc :*'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; > 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe > Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' > *Objet :*Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of > WS1 Recommendations > > Dear all, > > Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued aformal statement > updating > the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 > Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the > CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the > supplemental draft. > > Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third > Draft Report will relate to specificities of > implementation rather than content, and as such, an > additional public comment period will not be necessary > before approval by the Chartering Organizations. > > In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding > issues, we have announced a target to distribute the > supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in > time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 > Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. > > The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules > differently and we are respectfully asking that you take > this into account as you plan your discussions before and > during ICANN55. > > With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations > that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 > Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. > > We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report > and for your continued engagement in the development of > the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to > continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is > finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential > issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they > can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to > provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and > straightforward approval process. > > Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we > have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline > as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 > Recommendations and submission to NTIA. > > We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as > our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By > enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the > following potential global public interest concerns > stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been > discussed: > > * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. > * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. > * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. > * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the > group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board > concerns still exist. > * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. > > As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should > you have any questions or concerns. > > Best regards, > > Mathieu, Thomas, León > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org > > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 13:48:27 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:48:27 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference In-Reply-To: <56B9CEFB.9080303@oracle.com> References: <01b501d162f8$9dede4c0$d9c9ae40$@icgsec.asia> <56B9CEFB.9080303@oracle.com> Message-ID: YES THAT WOULD BE HELPFULL Kavouss 2016-02-09 12:35 GMT+01:00 Joseph Alhadeff : > Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not generate > a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? > > > On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > > Dear Jennifer, > 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be > able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. > KAVOUSS > > > 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung : > >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: >> >> >> >> http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 >> >> >> >> For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): >> >> >> >> Tuesday, March 1 >> >> 03:00 - 04:00 >> >> 04:00 - 05:00 >> >> 05:00 - 06:00 >> >> >> >> Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Alissa Cooper >> *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM >> *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for >> Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> >> >> It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about >> this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. >> >> >> >> Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call >> on March 1. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alissa >> >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: >> >> >> >> Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the >> formal statement from the co-chairs here: >> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs >> >> >> >> The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering >> organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, >> Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: >> >> >> >> (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met >> as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG >> a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. >> >> >> >> (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back >> from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal >> then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not >> have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the >> timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. >> (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via >> email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) >> >> >> >> I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a >> conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with >> interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we >> have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the >> ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a >> call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final >> proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to >> the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to >> the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day >> matters at this point. >> >> >> >> Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. >> >> >> >> Alissa >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> >> *From: *Mathieu Weill >> >> *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval >> of WS1 Recommendations* >> >> *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST >> >> *To: *"CCWG Accountability" >> >> >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> >> >> Please find below for your information the note sent today to the >> Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our >> meeting #82. >> >> >> >> This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. >> >> >> >> Best >> >> Mathieu >> >> >> >> *De :* Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] >> *Envoyé :* mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 >> *À :* 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; >> 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; >> 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' >> *Cc :* 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa >> Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' >> *Objet :* Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 >> Recommendations >> >> >> >> Dear all, >> >> >> >> Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement >> >> updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 >> Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the >> CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. >> >> >> >> Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will >> relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, >> an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval >> by the Chartering Organizations. >> >> >> >> In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we >> have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our >> Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work >> Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. >> >> >> >> The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and >> we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your >> discussions before and during ICANN55. >> >> With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can >> deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to >> Marrakech to please do so. >> >> >> >> We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your >> continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 >> Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental >> report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have >> been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our >> revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a >> simple and straightforward approval process. >> >> >> >> Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the >> ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period >> of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. >> >> >> >> We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work >> progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board >> comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest >> concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been >> discussed: >> >> - Inspection rights have been fully addressed. >> - Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. >> - Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. >> - Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has >> adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. >> - Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. >> >> As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any >> questions or concerns. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mathieu, Thomas, León >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing listInternal-cg at mm.ianacg.orghttp://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alissa at cooperw.in Tue Feb 9 16:13:17 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 08:13:17 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference In-Reply-To: <56B9CEFB.9080303@oracle.com> References: <01b501d162f8$9dede4c0$d9c9ae40$@icgsec.asia> <56B9CEFB.9080303@oracle.com> Message-ID: Yes, let’s go ahead and add Feb 29 and March 2 to the doodle. Jennifer, could you do that? Thanks, Alissa > On Feb 9, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Joseph Alhadeff wrote: > > Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not generate a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? > > On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: >> Dear Jennifer, >> 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. >> KAVOUSS >> >> >> 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung >: >> Dear All, >> >> >> Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: >> >> >> http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 >> >> For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): >> >> >> Tuesday, March 1 >> >> 03:00 - 04:00 >> >> 04:00 - 05:00 >> >> 05:00 - 06:00 >> >> >> Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> Jennifer >> >>   <> >> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org ] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper >> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM >> To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group < internal-cg at ianacg.org > >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> >> It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. >> >> >> Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call on March 1. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alissa >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper > wrote: >> >> >> Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs >> >> The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: >> >> >> (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. >> >> >> (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) >> >> >> I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. >> >> >> Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. >> >> >> Alissa >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> From: Mathieu Weill > >> >> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST >> >> To: "CCWG Accountability" < accountability-cross-community at icann.org > >> >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> >> Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. >> >> >> This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. >> >> >> Best >> >> Mathieu >> >> >> De : Mathieu Weill [ mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] >> Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 >> À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' >> Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' >> Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> >> Dear all, >> >> >> Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. >> >> >> Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. >> >> >> In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. >> >> >> The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. >> >> With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. >> >> >> We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. >> >> >> Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. >> >> >> We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: >> >> Inspection rights have been fully addressed. >> Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. >> Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. >> Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. >> Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. >> As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mathieu, Thomas, León >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For your reference, the time slot choices are now as follows (all times UTC): Monday, February 29 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Tuesday, March 1 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Wednesday, March 2 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! Best Regards, Jennifer From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:13 AM To: Joseph Alhadeff Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference Yes, let’s go ahead and add Feb 29 and March 2 to the doodle. Jennifer, could you do that? Thanks, Alissa On Feb 9, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Joseph Alhadeff > wrote: Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not generate a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: Dear Jennifer, 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. KAVOUSS 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung >: Dear All, Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): Tuesday, March 1 03:00 - 04:00 04:00 - 05:00 05:00 - 06:00 Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! Best Regards, Jennifer From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org ] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call on March 1. Thanks, Alissa On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper > wrote: Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-cc wg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. 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URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 18:27:21 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:27:21 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] UPDATE - ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference In-Reply-To: <02c001d16364$d710b1d0$85321570$@icgsec.asia> References: <02c001d16364$d710b1d0$85321570$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: Dear Jennifer, Thank you very much for the message,$ Any of the three days is good .if the call is 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Pls note that I and Keith are expected to report on the outcome of CCWG Regards Kavouss 2016-02-09 19:08 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung : > Dear All, > > > > Per Alissa, extra days and extra time slots have been added to the doodle > (18 options) link below: > > > > http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 > > > > For those who have already participated in the doodle, please take a look > to fill out the expanded choices – if you have any questions, please let me > know and I’ll be happy to assist. > > > > For your reference, the time slot choices are now as follows (all times > UTC): > > > > Monday, February 29 > > 03:00 – 04:00 > > 04:00 – 05:00 > > 05:00 – 06:00 > > 11:00 – 12:00 > > 12:00 – 13:00 > > 13:00 – 14:00 > > > > Tuesday, March 1 > > 03:00 – 04:00 > > 04:00 – 05:00 > > 05:00 – 06:00 > > 11:00 – 12:00 > > 12:00 – 13:00 > > 13:00 – 14:00 > > > > Wednesday, March 2 > > 03:00 – 04:00 > > 04:00 – 05:00 > > 05:00 – 06:00 > > 11:00 – 12:00 > > 12:00 – 13:00 > > 13:00 – 14:00 > > > > Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > > > *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf Of > *Alissa Cooper > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:13 AM > *To:* Joseph Alhadeff > *Cc:* internal-cg at ianacg.org > *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference > > > > Yes, let’s go ahead and add Feb 29 and March 2 to the doodle. Jennifer, > could you do that? > > > > Thanks, > > Alissa > > > > On Feb 9, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Joseph Alhadeff > wrote: > > > > Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not generate > a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? > > On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > > Dear Jennifer, > > 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be > able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. > > KAVOUSS > > > > > > 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung : > > Dear All, > > > > Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: > > > > http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 > > > > For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): > > > > Tuesday, March 1 > > 03:00 - 04:00 > > 04:00 - 05:00 > > 05:00 - 06:00 > > > > Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > > > *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf Of > *Alissa Cooper > *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM > *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group > *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for > Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations > > > > It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about > this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. > > > > Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call > on March 1. > > > > Thanks, > > Alissa > > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > > > > Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the > formal statement from the co-chairs here: > https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs > > > > The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering > organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, > Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: > > > > (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met > as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG > a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. > > > > (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back > from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal > then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not > have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the > timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. > (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via > email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) > > > > I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a > conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with > interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we > have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the > ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a > call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final > proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to > the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to > the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day > matters at this point. > > > > Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. > > > > Alissa > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > *From: *Mathieu Weill > > *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval > of WS1 Recommendations* > > *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST > > *To: *"CCWG Accountability" > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Please find below for your information the note sent today to the > Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our > meeting #82. > > > > This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. > > > > Best > > Mathieu > > > > *De :* Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] > *Envoyé :* mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 > *À :* 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; > 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; > 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' > *Cc :* 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa > Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' > *Objet :* Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 > Recommendations > > > > Dear all, > > > > Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement > updating > the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and > providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in > developing the supplemental draft. > > > > Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will > relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, > an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval > by the Chartering Organizations. > > > > In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have > announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering > Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 > Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. > > > > The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and > we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your > discussions before and during ICANN55. > > With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can > deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to > Marrakech to please do so. > > > > We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your > continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 > Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental > report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have > been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our > revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a > simple and straightforward approval process. > > > > Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the > ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period > of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. > > > > We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work > progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board > comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest > concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been > discussed: > > - Inspection rights have been fully addressed. > - Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. > - Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. > - Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted > its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. > - Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. > > As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any > questions or concerns. > > > > Best regards, > > Mathieu, Thomas, León > > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Internal-cg mailing list > > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 18:29:38 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:29:38 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference In-Reply-To: References: <01b501d162f8$9dede4c0$d9c9ae40$@icgsec.asia> <56B9CEFB.9080303@oracle.com> Message-ID: Dear Alissa. YEs provided that the call would be at any window of the following Regards Kavouss 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Regards Kavouss 2016-02-09 17:13 GMT+01:00 Alissa Cooper : > Yes, let’s go ahead and add Feb 29 and March 2 to the doodle. Jennifer, > could you do that? > > Thanks, > Alissa > > On Feb 9, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Joseph Alhadeff > wrote: > > Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not generate > a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? > > On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > > Dear Jennifer, > 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be > able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. > KAVOUSS > > > 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung : > >> Dear All, >> >> >> Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: >> >> >> http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 >> >> >> For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): >> >> >> Tuesday, March 1 >> >> 03:00 - 04:00 >> >> 04:00 - 05:00 >> >> 05:00 - 06:00 >> >> >> Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Alissa Cooper >> *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM >> *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group < >> internal-cg at ianacg.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for >> Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> >> It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about >> this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. >> >> >> Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call >> on March 1. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alissa >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: >> >> >> Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the >> formal statement from the co-chairs here: >> >> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs >> >> >> The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering >> organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, >> Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: >> >> >> (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met >> as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG >> a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. >> >> >> (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back >> from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal >> then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not >> have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the >> timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. >> (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via >> email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) >> >> >> I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a >> conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with >> interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we >> have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the >> ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a >> call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final >> proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to >> the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to >> the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day >> matters at this point. >> >> >> Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. >> >> >> Alissa >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> *From: *Mathieu Weill >> >> *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval >> of WS1 Recommendations* >> >> *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST >> >> *To: *"CCWG Accountability" < >> accountability-cross-community at icann.org> >> >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> >> Please find below for your information the note sent today to the >> Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our >> meeting #82. >> >> >> This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. >> >> >> Best >> >> Mathieu >> >> >> *De :* Mathieu Weill [ mailto:weill at afnic.fr >> ] >> *Envoyé :* mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 >> *À :* 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; >> 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; >> 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' >> *Cc :* 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa >> Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' >> *Objet :* Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 >> Recommendations >> >> >> Dear all, >> >> >> Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement >> >> updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 >> Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the >> CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. >> >> >> Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will >> relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, >> an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval >> by the Chartering Organizations. >> >> >> In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we >> have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our >> Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work >> Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. >> >> >> The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and >> we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your >> discussions before and during ICANN55. >> >> With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can >> deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to >> Marrakech to please do so. >> >> >> We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your >> continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 >> Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental >> report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have >> been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our >> revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a >> simple and straightforward approval process. >> >> >> Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the >> ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period >> of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. >> >> >> We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work >> progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board >> comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest >> concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been >> discussed: >> >> - Inspection rights have been fully addressed. >> - Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. >> - Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. >> - Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has >> adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. >> - Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. >> >> As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any >> questions or concerns. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mathieu, Thomas, León >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing listInternal-cg at mm.ianacg.orghttp://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Wed Feb 10 21:20:39 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 22:20:39 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] UPDATE - ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference In-Reply-To: References: <02c001d16364$d710b1d0$85321570$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: Dear Alissa Pls find a below the CCWG TIME LINE THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE CERTAINLY SEEN However, I thought it would be useful to refresh the mind of every one *Message from **Thomas, Mathieu, Leon * *Dear all, * * As discussed on the CCWG-Accountability call yesterday, we have put together a proposed timeline outlining the phases of our work to finalize the WS1 Report. We plan to share this timeline more broadly with the Chartering Organizations, the CWG-Stewardship, and the ICG, so that these groups can plan their approval schedules as well. * *Please note that the three last dates are in square brackets since they have yet to be confirmed by the dependent parties. We discussed these dates during a Transition Program Facilitation meeting yesterday (the recording is available here ), but we wanted to differentiate them from the dates for which we, in the CCWG-Accountability, have direct control over. We will also offer the Board an opportunity to submit a statement confirming that gaps have been addressed, since this may be useful to the Chartering Organizations as they consider the final report. * - *10 Feb — Complete editing of major sections (staff, leadership, legal counsel)* - *11 Feb — Finalize text, cross check and assemble draft package (staff)* - *12 Feb — Draft completed, final package review and ready for CCWG Leadership Team review. Staff will send the package to CCWG Leadership Team and CCWG Legal Counsel by 2200 UTC. * - *15 Feb — Incorporate edits from CCWG Leadership Team and Legal (staff)* - *16 Feb — Staff will send draft package to CCWG for 48 hr review* - *17 Feb --- Minority Statements due so they can be incorporated into report. If the Board wishes to submit a statement or comment confirming that gaps have been addressed, then this would be the due date for that statement. * - *18 Feb --- v4 draft finalized and sent to Chartering Organizations (this will include publication on the ICANN website and associated communications)* - *[25 Feb --- CWG-Stewardship sign-off letter delivered to Chartering Organizations]* - *[8 Mar --- Sign-off by Chartering Organizations at ICANN55 in Marrakech]* - *[10 Mar --- Hand over from ICANN Board to NTIA]* *Please send through any comments on the proposed timeline, and let us know should you have any suggestions or additions. * * Best, * *Thomas, Mathieu, Leon * I wish to inform my ICG colleagues that the works of CCWG has almost finished, See time line Calls 82 and 83 were instrumental. At call 82 every thing was blocked because of divergence views on Rec. 11 ( Stress Test 18) towards the end of the call 82 , two complementary comnpromise Two dedicated calls were organized to discuss the complementary packaged compropmiosed At the send dedicated call the package was almost agreed with some improvement to the initial package At CALL 83, 09 Feb in the general call the amended / improved packge was consensend Now we have time line We need to take necessary action in our formal letter to CWG to ask them ,if their requirements are fully met. This question w should raise on 18 February, See Time lione. I leave the rest for the co-chairs and the rest of ICG I am terribly tired as worked during the last three months almost 212-14 hours per day . Now I have to continue until the propoval is definitively finalized. there are still a lot of readings and compromise I an Keith made OUR UTMOST efforts to fully represent ICG? INTEREST Regards Kavouss 2016-02-09 19:27 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh : > Dear Jennifer, > Thank you very much for the message,$ > Any of the three days is good .if the call is > > 11:00 – 12:00 > > 12:00 – 13:00 > > 13:00 – 14:00 > > Pls note that I and Keith are expected to report on the outcome of CCWG > > Regards > > Kavouss > > 2016-02-09 19:08 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung : > >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> Per Alissa, extra days and extra time slots have been added to the doodle >> (18 options) link below: >> >> >> >> http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 >> >> >> >> For those who have already participated in the doodle, please take a look >> to fill out the expanded choices – if you have any questions, please let me >> know and I’ll be happy to assist. >> >> >> >> For your reference, the time slot choices are now as follows (all times >> UTC): >> >> >> >> Monday, February 29 >> >> 03:00 – 04:00 >> >> 04:00 – 05:00 >> >> 05:00 – 06:00 >> >> 11:00 – 12:00 >> >> 12:00 – 13:00 >> >> 13:00 – 14:00 >> >> >> >> Tuesday, March 1 >> >> 03:00 – 04:00 >> >> 04:00 – 05:00 >> >> 05:00 – 06:00 >> >> 11:00 – 12:00 >> >> 12:00 – 13:00 >> >> 13:00 – 14:00 >> >> >> >> Wednesday, March 2 >> >> 03:00 – 04:00 >> >> 04:00 – 05:00 >> >> 05:00 – 06:00 >> >> 11:00 – 12:00 >> >> 12:00 – 13:00 >> >> 13:00 – 14:00 >> >> >> >> Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Alissa Cooper >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:13 AM >> *To:* Joseph Alhadeff >> *Cc:* internal-cg at ianacg.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference >> >> >> >> Yes, let’s go ahead and add Feb 29 and March 2 to the doodle. Jennifer, >> could you do that? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alissa >> >> >> >> On Feb 9, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Joseph Alhadeff >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not >> generate a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? >> >> On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: >> >> Dear Jennifer, >> >> 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be >> able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. >> >> KAVOUSS >> >> >> >> >> >> 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung : >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: >> >> >> >> http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 >> >> >> >> For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): >> >> >> >> Tuesday, March 1 >> >> 03:00 - 04:00 >> >> 04:00 - 05:00 >> >> 05:00 - 06:00 >> >> >> >> Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Alissa Cooper >> *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM >> *To:* IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for >> Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations >> >> >> >> It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about >> this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. >> >> >> >> Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call >> on March 1. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alissa >> >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: >> >> >> >> Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the >> formal statement from the co-chairs here: >> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-ccwg-accountability-co-chairs >> >> >> >> The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering >> organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, >> Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: >> >> >> >> (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met >> as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG >> a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. >> >> >> >> (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back >> from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal >> then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not >> have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the >> timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. >> (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via >> email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) >> >> >> >> I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a >> conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with >> interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we >> have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the >> ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a >> call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final >> proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to >> the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to >> the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day >> matters at this point. >> >> >> >> Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. >> >> >> >> Alissa >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> >> *From: *Mathieu Weill >> >> *Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval >> of WS1 Recommendations* >> >> *Date: *February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST >> >> *To: *"CCWG Accountability" >> >> >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> >> >> Please find below for your information the note sent today to the >> Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our >> meeting #82. >> >> >> >> This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. >> >> >> >> Best >> >> Mathieu >> >> >> >> *De :* Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr ] >> *Envoyé :* mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 >> *À :* 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; >> 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; >> 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' >> *Cc :* 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa >> Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' >> *Objet :* Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 >> Recommendations >> >> >> >> Dear all, >> >> >> >> Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement >> updating >> the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and >> providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in >> developing the supplemental draft. >> >> >> >> Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will >> relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, >> an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval >> by the Chartering Organizations. >> >> >> >> In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we >> have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our >> Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work >> Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. >> >> >> >> The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and >> we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your >> discussions before and during ICANN55. >> >> With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can >> deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to >> Marrakech to please do so. >> >> >> >> We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your >> continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 >> Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental >> report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have >> been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our >> revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a >> simple and straightforward approval process. >> >> >> >> Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the >> ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period >> of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. >> >> >> >> We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work >> progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board >> comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest >> concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been >> discussed: >> >> - Inspection rights have been fully addressed. >> - Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. >> - Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. >> - Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has >> adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. >> - Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. >> >> As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any >> questions or concerns. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mathieu, Thomas, León >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Internal-cg mailing list >> >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, Jennifer From: Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 1:08 PM To: 'Alissa Cooper' ; 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' Subject: UPDATE - ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference Dear All, Per Alissa, extra days and extra time slots have been added to the doodle (18 options) link below: http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 For those who have already participated in the doodle, please take a look to fill out the expanded choices – if you have any questions, please let me know and I’ll be happy to assist. For your reference, the time slot choices are now as follows (all times UTC): Monday, February 29 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Tuesday, March 1 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Wednesday, March 2 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! Best Regards, Jennifer From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:13 AM To: Joseph Alhadeff > Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference Yes, let’s go ahead and add Feb 29 and March 2 to the doodle. Jennifer, could you do that? Thanks, Alissa On Feb 9, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Joseph Alhadeff > wrote: Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not generate a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: Dear Jennifer, 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. KAVOUSS 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung >: Dear All, Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): Tuesday, March 1 03:00 - 04:00 04:00 - 05:00 05:00 - 06:00 Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! Best Regards, Jennifer From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org ] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call on March 1. Thanks, Alissa On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper > wrote: Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-cc wg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. 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URL: From jen at icgsec.asia Mon Feb 15 18:07:13 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:07:13 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 26 - Tuesday 1 Mar, 12:00-13:00 UTC Message-ID: <058201d1681b$b3596140$1a0c23c0$@icgsec.asia> Dear All, ICG Call 26 will be held on Tuesday, 1 March, 12:00-13:00 UTC (time conversion link: http://icgsec.asia/1QhEMnP). By now you should have received individual calendar invites for this call – please let me know off-list if you have not received it yet and I’ll be happy to assist. The call details, including dial-in information, virtual meeting room link and translation services, will be circulated once confirmed. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Jennifer From: Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 12:30 PM To: 'Alissa Cooper' ; 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' Subject: REMINDER - ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference Dear All, Thank you to those who have already filled out the doodle. A gentle reminder for those who have not had a chance (or have not looked at the expanded choices), please click on the link below to fill out your preferences: http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 Per Alissa, we will be closing the doodle by tonight (23:59 UTC), and calendar invites will go out accordingly. Happy Friday/Happy Weekend/Happy long weekend! Best Regards, Jennifer From: Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 1:08 PM To: 'Alissa Cooper' >; 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' > Subject: UPDATE - ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference Dear All, Per Alissa, extra days and extra time slots have been added to the doodle (18 options) link below: http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 For those who have already participated in the doodle, please take a look to fill out the expanded choices – if you have any questions, please let me know and I’ll be happy to assist. For your reference, the time slot choices are now as follows (all times UTC): Monday, February 29 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Tuesday, March 1 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Wednesday, March 2 03:00 – 04:00 04:00 – 05:00 05:00 – 06:00 11:00 – 12:00 12:00 – 13:00 13:00 – 14:00 Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! Best Regards, Jennifer From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:13 AM To: Joseph Alhadeff > Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG Call: Doodle for March teleconference Yes, let’s go ahead and add Feb 29 and March 2 to the doodle. Jennifer, could you do that? Thanks, Alissa On Feb 9, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Joseph Alhadeff > wrote: Since there is no real magic on any one day, if the poll does not generate a critical mass perhaps we should consider more than one day? On 2/9/2016 5:49 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: Dear Jennifer, 05,00 - 06,00 is much better than the two others, otherwise I will not be able to attend as that would be a bad window for me. KAVOUSS 2016-02-09 6:13 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung >: Dear All, Per Alissa, please find the doodle link below for the March 1 ICG call: http://doodle.com/poll/h98bi8ks44432552 For your reference, the time slot choices are as follows (all times UTC): Tuesday, March 1 03:00 - 04:00 04:00 - 05:00 05:00 - 06:00 Responses by Tuesday, February 16 are very much appreciated! Best Regards, Jennifer From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org ] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 12:01 PM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] [CCWG-ACCT] Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations It seems most (though not all) ICG members who expressed an opinion about this are ok with this course of action, so we will proceed. Secretariat: please send a doodle poll so we can choose a time for a call on March 1. Thanks, Alissa On Feb 3, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Alissa Cooper > wrote: Please take a look at the message below from the CCWG list as well as the formal statement from the co-chairs here: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/leading-into-marrakech-an-update-from-the-cc wg-accountability-co-chairs The CCWG is aiming to have its proposal ready for the chartering organizations to approve it before or during ICANN 55. In light of this, Mohamed, Patrik and I believe the ICG needs to do the following: (1) Plan to ask the CWG for confirmation that their requirements are met as soon as the CCWG proposal goes to the chartering orgs, and give the CWG a heads-up that we intend to do that so they can respond promptly. (2) Schedule an ICG call for March 1. Hopefully we will have heard back from the CWG by then and we can discuss approval of our final proposal then, but it will be before anyone is in transit to Marrakesh. We do not have to wait for the chartering orgs to finish our business. If the timeline slips, we can cancel this call when it gets closer to the date. (Alternatively we could confirm approval of our final proposal strictly via email, but I am assuming folks would prefer to do so on a call.) I would also like to ask the group to reconsider the idea of scheduling a conference call at the end of the ICANN week, if we can find a time with interpreter availability. If the CCWG timeline does slip a bit such that we have not yet gotten a response from the CWG by March 1, I do not want the ICG to be in a position of causing any additional delay. If we schedule a call at the end of the ICANN week to discuss approval of our final proposal, we have less risk of doing that. Otherwise it may get bumped to the week following ICANN 55, even if the CCWG proposal gets forwarded to the ICANN Board during the meeting. I firmly believe that every single day matters at this point. Your thoughts on all of the above are much appreciated. Alissa Begin forwarded message: From: Mathieu Weill > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] TR: Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Date: February 2, 2016 at 11:53:16 PM PST To: "CCWG Accountability" > Dear Colleagues, Please find below for your information the note sent today to the Chartering Organization chairs, in line with our discussions during our meeting #82. This will be added to our correspondence section of the wiki. Best Mathieu De : Mathieu Weill [mailto:weill at afnic.fr] Envoyé : mercredi 3 février 2016 08:52 À : 'James Bladel'; 'Byron Holland'; 'Louis Lee'; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Thomas Schneider'; 'Lars-Johan Liman'; 'Tripti Sinha'; 'Patrik Fältström'; 'Alissa Cooper'; 'Mohamed El Bashir'; 'Jonathan Robinson'; 'Lise Fuhr' Cc : 'David Olive'; 'Steve Crocker'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Theresa Swinehart'; 'Thomas Rickert'; 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía'; 'ACCT-STAFF' Objet : Update on Timeline for Chartering Org Approval of WS1 Recommendations Dear all, Yesterday, the co-Chairs issued a formal statement updating the community on the status of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and providing insight into the steps the CCWG-Accountability will be taking in developing the supplemental draft. Our hope is that the majority of changes from the Third Draft Report will relate to specificities of implementation rather than content, and as such, an additional public comment period will not be necessary before approval by the Chartering Organizations. In light of progress made and in assessing the outstanding issues, we have announced a target to distribute the supplemental report to our Chartering Organizations in time for consideration and approval on all Work Stream 1 Recommendations during ICANN55 in Marrakech. The various SOs and ACs approach their work and schedules differently and we are respectfully asking that you take this into account as you plan your discussions before and during ICANN55. With that said, we encourage any Chartering Organizations that can deliberate and/or approve the Work Stream 1 Recommendations prior to Marrakech to please do so. We are grateful for your input on the Third Draft Report and for your continued engagement in the development of the revised Work Stream 1 Recommendations. We hope to continue this open dialogue as the supplemental report is finalized, and we are also hoping that all potential issues have been raised to the CCWG-Accountability so they can be mitigated in our revisions. Our objective is to provide the Chartering Organizations a simple and straightforward approval process. Following approval from the Chartering Organizations, we have asked the ICANN Board to be mindful of the timeline as they plan their review period of the Work Stream 1 Recommendations and submission to NTIA. We have seen increased involvement from the ICANN Board as our work progressed since the Third Draft Report. By enabling us to understand Board comments in real-time, the following potential global public interest concerns stemming from the Board’s comments in December, have been discussed: * Inspection rights have been fully addressed. * Budget process concerns have been fully addressed. * Work Stream 2 concerns have been fully addressed. * Human rights concerns have been discussed and the group has adjusted its recommendation, however Board concerns still exist. * Concerns on ICANN’s Mission are still being discussed. As always, please not hesitate to reach out to us should you have any questions or concerns. 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Pls look at other events in order not to have overlapping kavouss 2016-02-17 20:21 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Chung : > Dear All, > > > > The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social > gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me know if > you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time that will work > best for everyone. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jandyr.santos at itamaraty.gov.br Wed Feb 17 20:57:13 2016 From: jandyr.santos at itamaraty.gov.br (Jandyr Ferreira dos Santos Junior) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:57:13 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] RES: ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <73CC8A997D7EAD49ADC6848F9DDF3E0FE1CC1022@URANO20.itamaraty.local> Dear Jennifer, I´ll be in Marrakesh. Best regards, Jandyr -----Mensagem original----- De: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] Em nome de Jennifer Chung Enviada em: quarta-feira, 17 de fevereiro de 2016 17:22 Para: internal-cg at ianacg.org Assunto: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting Dear All, The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me know if you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time that will work best for everyone. Best Regards, Jennifer From manal at tra.gov.eg Wed Feb 17 21:35:12 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 21:35:12 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] RES: ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <73CC8A997D7EAD49ADC6848F9DDF3E0FE1CC1022@URANO20.itamaraty.local> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> <73CC8A997D7EAD49ADC6848F9DDF3E0FE1CC1022@URANO20.itamaraty.local> Message-ID: <469abc8b60fa4f2785d3b5641e2373e7@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Thanks Jennifer .. I'll be in Marrakech too .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Jandyr Ferreira dos Santos Junior Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:57 PM To: 'Jennifer Chung'; internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: [Internal-cg] RES: ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting Dear Jennifer, I´ll be in Marrakesh. Best regards, Jandyr -----Mensagem original----- De: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] Em nome de Jennifer Chung Enviada em: quarta-feira, 17 de fevereiro de 2016 17:22 Para: internal-cg at ianacg.org Assunto: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting Dear All, The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me know if you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time that will work best for everyone. Best Regards, Jennifer _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From jbladel at godaddy.com Thu Feb 18 01:09:19 2016 From: jbladel at godaddy.com (James M. Bladel) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 01:09:19 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: I'll be there, with limited availability. Thanks- J. From: Internal-cg > on behalf of Jennifer Chung > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 13:21 To: "internal-cg at ianacg.org" > Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting Dear All, The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me know if you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time that will work best for everyone. Best Regards, Jennifer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mundy at tislabs.com Thu Feb 18 05:39:15 2016 From: mundy at tislabs.com (Russ Mundy) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 00:39:15 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: Jennifer, I will be in Marrakech from Saturday evening (5th) thru mid-day on Thurs (10th) Russ M On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Jennifer Chung wrote: > Dear All, > > The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me know if you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time that will work best for everyone. > > Best Regards, > > Jennifer > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From paf at frobbit.se Thu Feb 18 07:20:48 2016 From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:20:48 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <73CC8A997D7EAD49ADC6848F9DDF3E0FE1CC1022@URANO20.itamaraty.local> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> <73CC8A997D7EAD49ADC6848F9DDF3E0FE1CC1022@URANO20.itamaraty.local> Message-ID: <7F15A787-C6C2-411E-9E29-45BDEA96B481@frobbit.se> FWIW, I will also be there. Patrik -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Patrik _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Thu Feb 18 11:10:31 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 06:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <56C5A6A7.7000508@oracle.com> I will not be there. Joe On 2/18/2016 12:39 AM, Russ Mundy wrote: > Jennifer, > > I will be in Marrakech from Saturday evening (5th) thru mid-day on Thurs (10th) > > Russ M > > On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Jennifer Chung wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me know if you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time that will work best for everyone. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Jennifer >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From alissa at cooperw.in Thu Feb 18 21:36:57 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 13:36:57 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] Update on communications plans Message-ID: <97857955-D166-4B3E-A83D-9EF23844CDF4@cooperw.in> Our communications subgroup has been having some discussions in preparation for what we hope will be approval of our proposal as well as the CCWG proposal in the Marrakech time frame. I wanted to report back to you on a few plans we have set out: * As has been our typical practice, ICG secretariat and chairs will prepare an announcement to be posted on our site and social media if and when our proposal gets approved and forwarded on to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. * We are working with our broader communications group — including comms folks from ICANN, ISOC, and RIRs — on materials that all of our communities represented in the ICG will be able to use or reference when doing outreach about the transition going forward, assuming successful proposal approvals by the ICG and CCWG. These materials include press release language and quotes to be used when the proposals go to NTIA, a short and simple FAQ about the proposals, top level messages, and 1-pagers directed at policymaker audiences. These are all in early stages and will be shared with the full ICG later on. * We’d like to gather information about outreach activities that ICG members have planned to promote the proposals post-Marrakech. Please send feedback or questions about these plans to the mailing list. A related item I had intended to share was a link to materials from a panel session about the transition that I moderated at the recent North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) meeting: >. There is a slide deck on that page that is an abbreviated version of the deck we used for the webinars when we had our public comment period and that folks should feel free to use if the need arises. Best, Alissa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pwilson at apnic.net Fri Feb 19 01:59:42 2016 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:59:42 +1000 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <1F6E5C15-3FBD-4789-901E-246238E79406@apnic.net> Hi Jennifer, I’ll be there for most of the period. Could we possibly have a recap/reminder of any IANA related events which are happening in Marrakech? I notice: - IANA stewardship implementation, Monday - The Role of the Ombudsman Post Transition, Weds - Internet Governance Public Sesssion, Thursday https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule-full Thanks Paul. On 18 Feb 2016, at 5:21, Jennifer Chung wrote: > Dear All, > > > > The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social > gathering > for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me know if you > will > be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time that will work > best for > everyone. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg From milton at gatech.edu Fri Feb 19 04:08:26 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 04:08:26 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <7F15A787-C6C2-411E-9E29-45BDEA96B481@frobbit.se> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> <73CC8A997D7EAD49ADC6848F9DDF3E0FE1CC1022@URANO20.itamaraty.local>, <7F15A787-C6C2-411E-9E29-45BDEA96B481@frobbit.se> Message-ID: I will arrive in Marrakech March 5 (Saturday) in the afternoon. I will leave March 11 (Friday) in the early afternoon. --MM ________________________________________ From: Internal-cg on behalf of Patrik Fältström Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 2:20 AM To: Jandyr Ferreira dos Santos Junior Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting FWIW, I will also be there. Patrik From jen at icgsec.asia Sat Feb 20 00:55:52 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 19:55:52 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <1F6E5C15-3FBD-4789-901E-246238E79406@apnic.net> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> <1F6E5C15-3FBD-4789-901E-246238E79406@apnic.net> Message-ID: <008c01d16b79$750ff550$5f2fdff0$@icgsec.asia> Dear Paul and All, I believe the Internet Governance Public Session may be on some broader topics (including WSIS+10 and IGF). I have sent a query to the ICANN team as there may be some sessions where the transition will be discussed that is not apparent from the session title. I will put together a fuller list of events for the ICG's reference as soon as I am able to confirm. Best Regards, Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pwilson at apnic.net] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:00 PM To: Jennifer Chung Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting Hi Jennifer, I’ll be there for most of the period. Could we possibly have a recap/reminder of any IANA related events which are happening in Marrakech? I notice: - IANA stewardship implementation, Monday - The Role of the Ombudsman Post Transition, Weds - Internet Governance Public Sesssion, Thursday https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule-full Thanks Paul. On 18 Feb 2016, at 5:21, Jennifer Chung wrote: > Dear All, > > > > The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social > gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me > know if you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time > that will work best for everyone. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg From mnuduma at yahoo.com Sat Feb 20 15:56:43 2016 From: mnuduma at yahoo.com (Mary Uduma) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting In-Reply-To: <008c01d16b79$750ff550$5f2fdff0$@icgsec.asia> References: <02c501d169b8$717d96d0$5478c470$@icgsec.asia> <1F6E5C15-3FBD-4789-901E-246238E79406@apnic.net> <008c01d16b79$750ff550$5f2fdff0$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <1196079358.7315998.1455983803154.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I will be in Marrakesh by 3rd March. Mary Uduma On Saturday, February 20, 2016 1:58 AM, Jennifer Chung wrote: Dear Paul and All, I believe the Internet Governance Public Session may be on some broader topics (including WSIS+10 and IGF).  I have sent a query to the ICANN team as there may be some sessions where the transition will be discussed that is not apparent from the session title.  I will put together a fuller list of events for the ICG's reference as soon as I am able to confirm. Best Regards, Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pwilson at apnic.net] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:00 PM To: Jennifer Chung Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting Hi Jennifer, I’ll be there for most of the period. Could we possibly have a recap/reminder of any IANA related events which are happening in Marrakech? I notice: - IANA stewardship implementation, Monday - The Role of the Ombudsman Post Transition, Weds - Internet Governance Public Sesssion, Thursday https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule-full Thanks Paul. On 18 Feb 2016, at 5:21, Jennifer Chung wrote: > Dear All, > > > > The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social > gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech.  Please let me > know if you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time > that will work best for everyone. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC                        dg at apnic.net http://www.apnic.net                                           @apnicdg _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Keith Begin forwarded message: From: Hillary Jett > Date: February 23, 2016 at 6:28:53 PM EST To: CCWG-Accountability > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations Original posting: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/ccwg-accountability-delivers-report-to-chartering-organizations CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations Today, the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability) provided its Chartering Organizations with its final supplemental report on Work Stream 1 recommendations. [You can download the full report here] The report is the result of extensive work by the CCWG-Accountability’s 28 members, 175 participants and a team of highly qualified legal advisors since December 2014, which included over 221 calls or meetings, 3 public consultations and more than 13,900 email messages. It represents a carefully crafted balance between key requirements, specific legal advice, and significant compromises by all who participated and includes diligent attention to the input received through the public comment proceedings. While the report is final at this stage, an additional opportunity will be provided for CCWG-Accountability members to revise, retract or add minority statements to the final report. Located in Appendix A, minority statements will be updated and released on 25 February. We will make ourselves available, together with or other key contributors, to the Chartering Organizations before and during the ICANN55 meeting in Marrakech to answer any questions and explain any details of the report. Background documents, slides, recordings and transcripts of recent webinars that explain the details of the report are available here. The CCWG-Accountability leadership team would like to thank everyone for taking part in this historic process to redefine ICANN’s accountability to the multistakeholder community. This work entailed significant time and attention from each of the CCWG-Accountability volunteers and staff who have been dedicated to the development of this report. We look forward to hearing from our Chartering Organizations and are optimistic we will be able to send the approved final supplemental report to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA in Marrakech. Thomas, Mathieu, León CCWG-Accountability co-Chairs _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As soon as possible, and preferably before March 1, please indicate to us whether or not the CCWG Accountability Proposal meets your requirements. > > Thank you, > Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed on behalf of the ICG > _______________________________________________ > CWG-Stewardship mailing list > CWG-Stewardship at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From narelle.clark at accan.org.au Wed Feb 24 08:45:27 2016 From: narelle.clark at accan.org.au (Narelle Clark) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:45:27 +1100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations Message-ID: Great progress! ! Narelle -------- Original message -------- From: "Drazek, Keith" Date: 24/02/2016 11:12 (GMT+10:00) To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations FYI, the CCWG Accountability final report has been delivered to the Chartering Organizations for consideration and approval in Marrakech. Target date for delivery to the Board is March 10. Regards, Keith Begin forwarded message: From: Hillary Jett > Date: February 23, 2016 at 6:28:53 PM EST To: CCWG-Accountability > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations Original posting: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/ccwg-accountability-delivers-report-to-chartering-organizations CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations Today, the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability) provided its Chartering Organizations with its final supplemental report on Work Stream 1 recommendations. [You can download the full report here] The report is the result of extensive work by the CCWG-Accountability’s 28 members, 175 participants and a team of highly qualified legal advisors since December 2014, which included over 221 calls or meetings, 3 public consultations and more than 13,900 email messages. It represents a carefully crafted balance between key requirements, specific legal advice, and significant compromises by all who participated and includes diligent attention to the input received through the public comment proceedings. While the report is final at this stage, an additional opportunity will be provided for CCWG-Accountability members to revise, retract or add minority statements to the final report. Located in Appendix A, minority statements will be updated and released on 25 February. We will make ourselves available, together with or other key contributors, to the Chartering Organizations before and during the ICANN55 meeting in Marrakech to answer any questions and explain any details of the report. Background documents, slides, recordings and transcripts of recent webinars that explain the details of the report are available here. 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URL: From manal at tra.gov.eg Thu Feb 25 08:23:25 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:23:25 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations In-Reply-To: <1B292E11-A993-48D8-91A1-F4BE278E4622@verisign.com> References: <3B7BE8D0-15E6-41AA-BA27-810880F8CCCA@icann.org> <1B292E11-A993-48D8-91A1-F4BE278E4622@verisign.com> Message-ID: Thanks Keith for the heads up .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Drazek, Keith Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:11 AM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations FYI, the CCWG Accountability final report has been delivered to the Chartering Organizations for consideration and approval in Marrakech. Target date for delivery to the Board is March 10. Regards, Keith Begin forwarded message: From: Hillary Jett > Date: February 23, 2016 at 6:28:53 PM EST To: CCWG-Accountability > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations Original posting: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/ccwg-accountability-delivers-report-to-chartering-organizations CCWG-Accountability Delivers Report to Chartering Organizations Today, the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability) provided its Chartering Organizations with its final supplemental report on Work Stream 1 recommendations. [You can download the full report here] The report is the result of extensive work by the CCWG-Accountability's 28 members, 175 participants and a team of highly qualified legal advisors since December 2014, which included over 221 calls or meetings, 3 public consultations and more than 13,900 email messages. It represents a carefully crafted balance between key requirements, specific legal advice, and significant compromises by all who participated and includes diligent attention to the input received through the public comment proceedings. While the report is final at this stage, an additional opportunity will be provided for CCWG-Accountability members to revise, retract or add minority statements to the final report. Located in Appendix A, minority statements will be updated and released on 25 February. We will make ourselves available, together with or other key contributors, to the Chartering Organizations before and during the ICANN55 meeting in Marrakech to answer any questions and explain any details of the report. Background documents, slides, recordings and transcripts of recent webinars that explain the details of the report are available here. The CCWG-Accountability leadership team would like to thank everyone for taking part in this historic process to redefine ICANN's accountability to the multistakeholder community. This work entailed significant time and attention from each of the CCWG-Accountability volunteers and staff who have been dedicated to the development of this report. We look forward to hearing from our Chartering Organizations and are optimistic we will be able to send the approved final supplemental report to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA in Marrakech. Thomas, Mathieu, León CCWG-Accountability co-Chairs _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manal at tra.gov.eg Thu Feb 25 08:28:15 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:28:15 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Update on communications plans In-Reply-To: <97857955-D166-4B3E-A83D-9EF23844CDF4@cooperw.in> References: <97857955-D166-4B3E-A83D-9EF23844CDF4@cooperw.in> Message-ID: Many thanks Alissa .. Sounds perfect .. Thanks for sharing a link to the abbreviated version of the slide deck .. very useful .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:37 PM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Update on communications plans Our communications subgroup has been having some discussions in preparation for what we hope will be approval of our proposal as well as the CCWG proposal in the Marrakech time frame. I wanted to report back to you on a few plans we have set out: * As has been our typical practice, ICG secretariat and chairs will prepare an announcement to be posted on our site and social media if and when our proposal gets approved and forwarded on to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. * We are working with our broader communications group — including comms folks from ICANN, ISOC, and RIRs — on materials that all of our communities represented in the ICG will be able to use or reference when doing outreach about the transition going forward, assuming successful proposal approvals by the ICG and CCWG. These materials include press release language and quotes to be used when the proposals go to NTIA, a short and simple FAQ about the proposals, top level messages, and 1-pagers directed at policymaker audiences. These are all in early stages and will be shared with the full ICG later on. * We’d like to gather information about outreach activities that ICG members have planned to promote the proposals post-Marrakech. Please send feedback or questions about these plans to the mailing list. A related item I had intended to share was a link to materials from a panel session about the transition that I moderated at the recent North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) meeting: . There is a slide deck on that page that is an abbreviated version of the deck we used for the webinars when we had our public comment period and that folks should feel free to use if the need arises. Best, Alissa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jen at icgsec.asia Mon Feb 29 03:15:27 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 22:15:27 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Volume 13: An Update on IANA Stewardship Discussions - ICANN Message-ID: <032601d1729f$71359ac0$53a0d040$@icgsec.asia> Dear All, Please see below for the blog post: Volume 13: An Update on IANA Stewardship Discussions - ICANN Best, Jennifer --------- Transition another step closer as accountability proposal is sent to Chartering Organizations • The final CCWG-Accountability proposal for accountability enhancements that must be in place or committed to within the timeframe of the IANA Stewardship Transition has been sent to its six Chartering Organizations for adoption. • The CWG-Stewardship is finalizing a letter confirming that the CCWG-Accountability proposal meets all of their requirements. • The ICG will finalize their proposal for transmission to the ICANN Board and NTIA upon receiving confirmation from the CWG-Stewardship. Read more at:  https://www.icann.org/news/blog/volume-13-an-update-on-iana-stewardship-disc ussions From jen at icgsec.asia Mon Feb 29 03:48:44 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 22:48:44 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA Stewardship Transition and Accountability discussions at ICANN55 Message-ID: <032f01d172a4$17e56e50$47b04af0$@icgsec.asia> Dear All, Please see below for a listing of IANA Stewardship Transition and Accountability discussions at ICANN55: For a tabled version, and remote participation links if available: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/volume-13-an-update-on-iana-stewardship-discussions For the full ICANN schedule: https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule-full Meeting guide and venue map: see attached pdf, meeting room locations for each session in parentheses below. 5 Mar 12:45-15:00 GNSO: CCWG-Accountability Discussion (Diamant) 14:30-16:00 GAC: IANA Transition and ICANN Accountability: Overview (Cristal) 17:00-18:00 GAC: Position as a Chartering Organisation for CCWG Accountability (Cristal) 6 Mar 08:30-12:30 GAC: Position as a Chartering Organisation for CCWG-Accountability (Cristal) 11:15-11:45 GNSO: Update on CWG-Stewardship Implementation (Diamant) 11:45-13:00 GNSO: Update on CCWG-Accountability (Diamant) 7 Mar 10:15-11:30 High-Level Governmental Meeting: IANA Stewardship Transition Outcomes (Cristal) 10:30-11:45 IANA Stewardship Transition Implementation (Atlas) 11:45-13:15 High-Level Governmental Meeting: Enhancing ICANN Accountability and Governments role in the new ICANN framework (Cristal) 13:30-15:00 CCWG-Accountability Engagement Session (Atlas) 8 Mar 11:00-12:30 ccNSO: IANA Stewardship Transition Process (Roseraie) 12:00-12:30 GAC: Position as a Chartering Organisation for CCWG-Accountability (Cristal) 14:30-15:30 GAC: Position as a Chartering Organisation for CCWG-Accountability (Cristal) 16:00-18:00 GAC: Finalize GAC Position as a Chartering Organization for CCWG-Accountability (Cristal) 9 Mar 13:30-15:30 GNSO Council meeting (Toubkal) 13:30-18:00 ccNSO: IANA Stewardship Transition Process and ccNSO Council Meeting (Oliveraie) 10 Mar 16:00-17:30 ICANN Public Board Meeting (Atlas) Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:56 PM To: 'Paul Wilson' Cc: 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' Subject: RE: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting Dear Paul and All, I believe the Internet Governance Public Session may be on some broader topics (including WSIS+10 and IGF). I have sent a query to the ICANN team as there may be some sessions where the transition will be discussed that is not apparent from the session title. I will put together a fuller list of events for the ICG's reference as soon as I am able to confirm. Best Regards, Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pwilson at apnic.net] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:00 PM To: Jennifer Chung Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting Hi Jennifer, I’ll be there for most of the period. Could we possibly have a recap/reminder of any IANA related events which are happening in Marrakech? I notice: - IANA stewardship implementation, Monday - The Role of the Ombudsman Post Transition, Weds - Internet Governance Public Sesssion, Thursday https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule-full Thanks Paul. On 18 Feb 2016, at 5:21, Jennifer Chung wrote: > Dear All, > > > > The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social > gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. 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The CWG-Stewardship endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Dear all, We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean form. They are also available on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans Feedback on the agenda is welcome. Alissa From fmniebel at gmail.com Mon Feb 29 17:18:51 2016 From: fmniebel at gmail.com (michael niebel) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 18:18:51 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: Good point, Martin Michael Am Montag, 29. Februar 2016 schrieb Martin Boyle : > Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? Many a > slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The CWG-Stewardship > endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org ] > On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper > Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > > Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > > Dear all, > > We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets > its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our final > proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final proposal, > with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the CWG-CCWG > dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean form. They are > also available on Dropbox: > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 > > We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 > call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: > > 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans > > Feedback on the agenda is welcome. > > Alissa > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de Mon Feb 29 17:30:19 2016 From: wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de (WUKnoben) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 18:30:19 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <836886BD3F8149F2BEB057A8A2D532BC@WUKPC> Martin, you mean the CWG had to wait for the CCWG chartering organizations to adopt? Well, in this case we may have to wait sending the ICG proposal to the board until the CCWG proposal has been approved. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Martin Boyle Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:14 PM To: Alissa Cooper ; IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The CWG-Stewardship endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Dear all, We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean form. They are also available on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans Feedback on the agenda is welcome. Alissa _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From alissa at cooperw.in Mon Feb 29 17:58:56 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 09:58:56 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> Hi Martin, > On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle wrote: > > Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and in every highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the CWG’s confirmation, and we received that. Our proposal was not conditioned on any action by the chartering organizations. Alissa > Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The CWG-Stewardship endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper > Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > > Dear all, > > We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean form. They are also available on Dropbox: > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 > https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 > > We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: > > 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans > > Feedback on the agenda is welcome. > > Alissa > From elise.gerich at icann.org Mon Feb 29 19:31:22 2016 From: elise.gerich at icann.org (Elise Gerich) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:31:22 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <9683E45C-7183-4AB4-AE5E-D409986EB1C8@icann.org> Hi Alissa, Thank you for sending an updated version in advance of the upcoming call. — Elise -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg on behalf of Alissa Cooper Date: Monday, February 29, 2016 at 8:47 AM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >Dear all, > >We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean form. They are also available on Dropbox: > >https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 >https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 > >We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: > >1. Approval of final transition proposal >2. Update on communications plans > >Feedback on the agenda is welcome. > >Alissa > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5037 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk Mon Feb 29 19:32:11 2016 From: Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk (Martin Boyle) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:32:11 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: Hi Alissa, Surely the accountability requirements will only be met if the CCWG-Accountability proposal is adopted? Until then it is a conditional agreement: if the draft proposal were to be adopted, it would meet the CWG-Stewardship's requirements. Put another way, if one or more Chartering Organisation were to reject (or, for that matter, the ICANN Board refused to adopt) there is no CCWG-Accountability proposal and therefore the conditionality has not been met. We'll look silly if we send in the proposal a day or so before one of the Chartering Organisations rejected the draft... Martin -----Original Message----- From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] Sent: 29 February 2016 17:59 To: Martin Boyle Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Hi Martin, > On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle wrote: > > Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and in every highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the CWG’s confirmation, and we received that. Our proposal was not conditioned on any action by the chartering organizations. Alissa > Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The CWG-Stewardship endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper > Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > > Dear all, > > We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean form. They are also available on Dropbox: > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 > https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 > > We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: > > 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans > > Feedback on the agenda is welcome. > > Alissa > From jbladel at godaddy.com Mon Feb 29 19:38:25 2016 From: jbladel at godaddy.com (James M. Bladel) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:38:25 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: I agree with Martin. Like the ICG, other chartering organizations were also seeking confirmation from CWG-Stewardship that CCWG-Accountablity met their dependencies as a component of their review & approval of the CCWG-Accoutnablity report. J. On 2/29/16, 13:32 , "Internal-cg on behalf of Martin Boyle" wrote: >Hi Alissa, > >Surely the accountability requirements will only be met if the >CCWG-Accountability proposal is adopted? Until then it is a conditional >agreement: if the draft proposal were to be adopted, it would meet the >CWG-Stewardship's requirements. Put another way, if one or more >Chartering Organisation were to reject (or, for that matter, the ICANN >Board refused to adopt) there is no CCWG-Accountability proposal and >therefore the conditionality has not been met. > >We'll look silly if we send in the proposal a day or so before one of the >Chartering Organisations rejected the draft... > >Martin > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] >Sent: 29 February 2016 17:59 >To: Martin Boyle >Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > >Hi Martin, > >> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle >>wrote: >> >> Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? > >No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and in >every highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the CWG¹s >confirmation, and we received that. Our proposal was not conditioned on >any action by the chartering organizations. > >Alissa > >> Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The >>CWG-Stewardship endorsement is an important, but not a complete, >>condition. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of >>Alissa Cooper >> Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 >> To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >> >> Dear all, >> >> We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets >>its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our >>final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final >>proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the >>CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean >>form. They are also available on Dropbox: >> >> >>https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.do >>cx?dl=0 >> >>https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-cl >>ean.docx?dl=0 >> >> We will ask for the ICG¹s approval of this final version on our March 1 >>call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: >> >> 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications >>plans >> >> Feedback on the agenda is welcome. >> >> Alissa >> > >_______________________________________________ >Internal-cg mailing list >Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From jari.arkko at piuha.net Mon Feb 29 22:39:02 2016 From: jari.arkko at piuha.net (Jari Arkko) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 00:39:02 +0200 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <99889709-C528-411C-BB40-671C20587C0D@piuha.net> I think we can complete our part and move on. If our requirements have been fulfilled, we can observe them and indeed move on. There are also practical considerations; in a system with multiple approvers and no atomic transactions, someone may have to move first. Doesn’t mean that we couldn’t come back if something later happens in the chartering organisations, the ICANN board, or NTIA. And as long as we say our requirements have been fulfilled but do not pretend that this is the end of the overall process, we are fine. Jari -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 842 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From milton at gatech.edu Mon Feb 29 23:32:09 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 23:32:09 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: I agree with Martin. The CWG says that its proposal is dependent on the CCWG and until the CCWG is done the CWG is not done and we are not done. We gain nothing by jumping the gun > -----Original Message----- > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of > Martin Boyle > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:32 PM > To: Alissa Cooper > Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > > Hi Alissa, > > Surely the accountability requirements will only be met if the CCWG- > Accountability proposal is adopted? Until then it is a conditional agreement: > if the draft proposal were to be adopted, it would meet the CWG- > Stewardship's requirements. Put another way, if one or more Chartering > Organisation were to reject (or, for that matter, the ICANN Board refused to > adopt) there is no CCWG-Accountability proposal and therefore the > conditionality has not been met. > > We'll look silly if we send in the proposal a day or so before one of the > Chartering Organisations rejected the draft... > > Martin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] > Sent: 29 February 2016 17:59 > To: Martin Boyle > Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > > Hi Martin, > > > On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle > wrote: > > > > Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? > > No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and in every > highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the CWG’s confirmation, > and we received that. Our proposal was not conditioned on any action by the > chartering organizations. > > Alissa > > > Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The CWG-Stewardship > endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of > Alissa Cooper > > Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 > > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > > Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > > > > Dear all, > > > > We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal > meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our > final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final > proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the > CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean > form. They are also available on Dropbox: > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal- > v10.docx?dl=0 > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal- > v10-clean.docx?dl=0 > > > > We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call > (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: > > > > 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans > > > > Feedback on the agenda is welcome. > > > > Alissa > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From milton at gatech.edu Mon Feb 29 23:32:58 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 23:32:58 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <99889709-C528-411C-BB40-671C20587C0D@piuha.net> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <99889709-C528-411C-BB40-671C20587C0D@piuha.net> Message-ID: It's clear who has to move first, or move next: the CCWG and its chartering organizations. > -----Original Message----- > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Jari > Arkko > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 5:39 PM > To: Alissa Cooper > Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > > I think we can complete our part and move on. > If our requirements have been fulfilled, we can observe them and indeed > move on. > > There are also practical considerations; in a system with multiple approvers > and no atomic transactions, someone may have to move first. Doesn't mean > that we couldn't come back if something later happens in the chartering > organisations, the ICANN board, or NTIA. And as long as we say our > requirements have been fulfilled but do not pretend that this is the end of > the overall process, we are fine. > > Jari From alissa at cooperw.in Mon Feb 29 23:58:27 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 15:58:27 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> To alleviate potential confusion, I would like for us to handle separate issues separately on the call: (1) Do we approve of the final text in v10 of the transition proposal? That is, if nothing changes in the CCWG proposal and all of the chartering organizations approve it, is v10 the version we will send to the Board? (2) If we answer (1) in the affirmative, when can we send v10 to the Board? (This may be where the disagreement on this thread is arising, or at least I hope it is here and not in (1)). Alissa > On Feb 29, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote: > > I agree with Martin. > The CWG says that its proposal is dependent on the CCWG and until the CCWG is done the CWG is not done and we are not done. > We gain nothing by jumping the gun > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of >> Martin Boyle >> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:32 PM >> To: Alissa Cooper >> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >> >> Hi Alissa, >> >> Surely the accountability requirements will only be met if the CCWG- >> Accountability proposal is adopted? Until then it is a conditional agreement: >> if the draft proposal were to be adopted, it would meet the CWG- >> Stewardship's requirements. Put another way, if one or more Chartering >> Organisation were to reject (or, for that matter, the ICANN Board refused to >> adopt) there is no CCWG-Accountability proposal and therefore the >> conditionality has not been met. >> >> We'll look silly if we send in the proposal a day or so before one of the >> Chartering Organisations rejected the draft... >> >> Martin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] >> Sent: 29 February 2016 17:59 >> To: Martin Boyle >> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >> >> Hi Martin, >> >>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle >> wrote: >>> >>> Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? >> >> No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and in every >> highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the CWG’s confirmation, >> and we received that. Our proposal was not conditioned on any action by the >> chartering organizations. >> >> Alissa >> >>> Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The CWG-Stewardship >> endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of >> Alissa Cooper >>> Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 >>> To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal >> meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our >> final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final >> proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the >> CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean >> form. They are also available on Dropbox: >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal- >> v10.docx?dl=0 >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal- >> v10-clean.docx?dl=0 >>> >>> We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call >> (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: >>> >>> 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans >>> >>> Feedback on the agenda is welcome. >>> >>> Alissa >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org