From jbladel at godaddy.com Tue Mar 1 00:04:07 2016 From: jbladel at godaddy.com (James M. Bladel) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 00:04:07 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> Message-ID: Speaking for myself, my preferences would be: (1) yes, and (2) upon confirmation that the CCWG Proposal from (1) has been approved by the Chartering Organizations and transmitted to the Board. Thanks‹ J. On 2/29/16, 17:58 , "Internal-cg on behalf of Alissa Cooper" wrote: >To alleviate potential confusion, I would like for us to handle separate >issues separately on the call: > >(1) Do we approve of the final text in v10 of the transition proposal? >That is, if nothing changes in the CCWG proposal and all of the >chartering organizations approve it, is v10 the version we will send to >the Board? > >(2) If we answer (1) in the affirmative, when can we send v10 to the >Board? (This may be where the disagreement on this thread is arising, or >at least I hope it is here and not in (1)). > >Alissa > >> On Feb 29, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Mueller, Milton L >>wrote: >> >> I agree with Martin. >> The CWG says that its proposal is dependent on the CCWG and until the >>CCWG is done the CWG is not done and we are not done. >> We gain nothing by jumping the gun >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of >>> Martin Boyle >>> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:32 PM >>> To: Alissa Cooper >>> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>> >>> Hi Alissa, >>> >>> Surely the accountability requirements will only be met if the CCWG- >>> Accountability proposal is adopted? Until then it is a conditional >>>agreement: >>> if the draft proposal were to be adopted, it would meet the CWG- >>> Stewardship's requirements. Put another way, if one or more Chartering >>> Organisation were to reject (or, for that matter, the ICANN Board >>>refused to >>> adopt) there is no CCWG-Accountability proposal and therefore the >>> conditionality has not been met. >>> >>> We'll look silly if we send in the proposal a day or so before one of >>>the >>> Chartering Organisations rejected the draft... >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] >>> Sent: 29 February 2016 17:59 >>> To: Martin Boyle >>> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>> >>> Hi Martin, >>> >>>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? >>> >>> No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and in >>>every >>> highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the CWG¹s >>>confirmation, >>> and we received that. Our proposal was not conditioned on any action >>>by the >>> chartering organizations. >>> >>> Alissa >>> >>>> Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The >>>>CWG-Stewardship >>> endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of >>> Alissa Cooper >>>> Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 >>>> To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal >>> meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve >>>our >>> final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final >>> proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced >>>the >>> CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean >>> form. They are also available on Dropbox: >>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal- >>> v10.docx?dl=0 >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal- >>> v10-clean.docx?dl=0 >>>> >>>> We will ask for the ICG¹s approval of this final version on our March >>>>1 call >>> (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: >>>> >>>> 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications >>>>plans >>>> >>>> Feedback on the agenda is welcome. >>>> >>>> Alissa >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Internal-cg mailing list >Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From manal at tra.gov.eg Tue Mar 1 05:40:44 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 05:40:44 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Agree with colleagues that we cannot submit the transition proposal until the accountability one is approved by all parties .. Splitting the issues as proposed by Alissa makes a lot of sense to me .. My preferences would be similar to James' .. Yes for (1), we need to be ready with an approved version of the transition proposal with the givens at hand .. For (2), we need to be ready to send this version to the Board by the end of the Marrakech meeting, should the accountability proposal be finalized and submitted as planned .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 2:04 AM To: Alissa Cooper; Mueller, Milton L Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Speaking for myself, my preferences would be: (1) yes, and (2) upon confirmation that the CCWG Proposal from (1) has been approved by the Chartering Organizations and transmitted to the Board. Thanks< J. On 2/29/16, 17:58 , "Internal-cg on behalf of Alissa Cooper" wrote: >To alleviate potential confusion, I would like for us to handle >separate issues separately on the call: > >(1) Do we approve of the final text in v10 of the transition proposal? >That is, if nothing changes in the CCWG proposal and all of the >chartering organizations approve it, is v10 the version we will send to >the Board? > >(2) If we answer (1) in the affirmative, when can we send v10 to the >Board? (This may be where the disagreement on this thread is arising, >or at least I hope it is here and not in (1)). > >Alissa > >> On Feb 29, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Mueller, Milton L >>wrote: >> >> I agree with Martin. >> The CWG says that its proposal is dependent on the CCWG and until the >>CCWG is done the CWG is not done and we are not done. >> We gain nothing by jumping the gun >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf >>> Of Martin Boyle >>> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:32 PM >>> To: Alissa Cooper >>> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>> >>> Hi Alissa, >>> >>> Surely the accountability requirements will only be met if the CCWG- >>>Accountability proposal is adopted? Until then it is a conditional >>>agreement: >>> if the draft proposal were to be adopted, it would meet the CWG- >>>Stewardship's requirements. Put another way, if one or more >>>Chartering Organisation were to reject (or, for that matter, the >>>ICANN Board refused to >>> adopt) there is no CCWG-Accountability proposal and therefore the >>>conditionality has not been met. >>> >>> We'll look silly if we send in the proposal a day or so before one >>>of the Chartering Organisations rejected the draft... >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] >>> Sent: 29 February 2016 17:59 >>> To: Martin Boyle >>> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>> >>> Hi Martin, >>> >>>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? >>> >>> No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and >>>in every highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the >>>CWG¹s confirmation, and we received that. Our proposal was not >>>conditioned on any action by the chartering organizations. >>> >>> Alissa >>> >>>> Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The >>>>CWG-Stewardship >>> endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf >>>> Of >>> Alissa Cooper >>>> Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 >>>> To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal >>> meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to >>>approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN >>>Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that >>>previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this >>>message in redline and clean form. They are also available on >>>Dropbox: >>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal- >>> v10.docx?dl=0 >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal- >>> v10-clean.docx?dl=0 >>>> >>>> We will ask for the ICG¹s approval of this final version on our >>>>March >>>>1 call >>> (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: >>>> >>>> 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on >>>>communications plans >>>> >>>> Feedback on the agenda is welcome. >>>> >>>> Alissa >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Internal-cg mailing list >Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From manal at tra.gov.eg Tue Mar 1 06:29:21 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 06:29:21 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] In-Reply-To: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <61c8d385b6cd4f1da9f5510e545e8228@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Many thanks Alissa for sharing this version in advance of the call .. All looks good to me .. I did 2 minor edits but have no strong position on any of them .. Edits are attached in track changes, available on Dropbox and underlined below for everyone's convenience: Para X018 -> now X016: Many commenters in the public comment period noted the CWG dependency on ICANN-level accountability mechanisms that were, at the time of the public comment period, under development in the CCWG and noted the associated difficulty in judging the overall accountability provided by the Names proposal. Rationale: this part of the sentence is now too far and I think we need to link it back to what the commenters 'noted'. Paras 112 and X031 -> now X029: "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG approved this version and agreed to submitting it to NTIA via the ICANN Board." Rationale: this was mentioned somewhere in the deleted text .. I feel it's worth mentioning .. not necessarily here if there's a better place .. Looking forward to our call later today .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:48 PM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] Dear all, We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean form. They are also available on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans Feedback on the agenda is welcome. Alissa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We have not questioned the OCs decision making process earlier, and I do not feel we should do it this time either. Patrik -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 203 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From paf at frobbit.se Tue Mar 1 07:08:14 2016 From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 08:08:14 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <935A81F1-8943-4BCA-9F39-FDCE067EAA55@frobbit.se> I read what you and Martin write. I just do not want ICG to inject itself in decision making process of the CWG. CWG could have waited with sending their letter until CCWG proposal was approved, but they did not. Patrik On 1 Mar 2016, at 0:32, Mueller, Milton L wrote: > I agree with Martin. > The CWG says that its proposal is dependent on the CCWG and until the CCWG is done the CWG is not done and we are not done. > We gain nothing by jumping the gun > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of >> Martin Boyle >> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:32 PM >> To: Alissa Cooper >> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >> >> Hi Alissa, >> >> Surely the accountability requirements will only be met if the CCWG- >> Accountability proposal is adopted? Until then it is a conditional agreement: >> if the draft proposal were to be adopted, it would meet the CWG- >> Stewardship's requirements. Put another way, if one or more Chartering >> Organisation were to reject (or, for that matter, the ICANN Board refused to >> adopt) there is no CCWG-Accountability proposal and therefore the >> conditionality has not been met. >> >> We'll look silly if we send in the proposal a day or so before one of the >> Chartering Organisations rejected the draft... >> >> Martin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] >> Sent: 29 February 2016 17:59 >> To: Martin Boyle >> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >> >> Hi Martin, >> >>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle >> wrote: >>> >>> Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? >> >> No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and in every >> highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the CWG’s confirmation, >> and we received that. Our proposal was not conditioned on any action by the >> chartering organizations. >> >> Alissa >> >>> Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The CWG-Stewardship >> endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of >> Alissa Cooper >>> Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 >>> To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal >> meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our >> final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final >> proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the >> CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean >> form. They are also available on Dropbox: >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal- >> v10.docx?dl=0 >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal- >> v10-clean.docx?dl=0 >>> >>> We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March 1 call >> (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: >>> >>> 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans >>> >>> Feedback on the agenda is welcome. >>> >>> Alissa >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 203 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From paf at frobbit.se Tue Mar 1 07:22:38 2016 From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 08:22:38 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> Message-ID: On 1 Mar 2016, at 0:58, Alissa Cooper wrote: > To alleviate potential confusion, I would like for us to handle separate issues separately on the call: > > (1) Do we approve of the final text in v10 of the transition proposal? That is, if nothing changes in the CCWG proposal and all of the chartering organizations approve it, is v10 the version we will send to the Board? Yes > (2) If we answer (1) in the affirmative, when can we send v10 to the Board? (This may be where the disagreement on this thread is arising, or at least I hope it is here and not in (1)). We should wait for as long as we need, but not longer. And with this I include that I do not want ICG to question the decisions made by one of the OCs, in this specific case CWG. Whether what CWG said was (once again) conditional upon CCWG, then we should wait for CCWG. If it was not, we should not wait. If it once again was a conditional decision by CWG, then we should once again ask CWG to please let us know when they have approved their document. Patrik -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is likely that the GNSO council is going to finalize its "vote" on the CCWG report on Wednesday in Marrakech. >From a direction point of view a good timing for the official submission of both proposals (CCWG and ICG) could be on Thursday at the beginning of the Public Forum. This setting could be coordinated by the respective chairs in advance. And then the board could take the necessary steps during its public meeting later in the afternoon. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Manal Ismail Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 6:40 AM To: James M. Bladel ; Alissa Cooper ; Mueller, Milton L Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Agree with colleagues that we cannot submit the transition proposal until the accountability one is approved by all parties .. Splitting the issues as proposed by Alissa makes a lot of sense to me .. My preferences would be similar to James' .. Yes for (1), we need to be ready with an approved version of the transition proposal with the givens at hand .. For (2), we need to be ready to send this version to the Board by the end of the Marrakech meeting, should the accountability proposal be finalized and submitted as planned .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 2:04 AM To: Alissa Cooper; Mueller, Milton L Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Speaking for myself, my preferences would be: (1) yes, and (2) upon confirmation that the CCWG Proposal from (1) has been approved by the Chartering Organizations and transmitted to the Board. Thanks< J. On 2/29/16, 17:58 , "Internal-cg on behalf of Alissa Cooper" wrote: >To alleviate potential confusion, I would like for us to handle >separate issues separately on the call: > >(1) Do we approve of the final text in v10 of the transition proposal? >That is, if nothing changes in the CCWG proposal and all of the >chartering organizations approve it, is v10 the version we will send to >the Board? > >(2) If we answer (1) in the affirmative, when can we send v10 to the >Board? (This may be where the disagreement on this thread is arising, >or at least I hope it is here and not in (1)). > >Alissa > >> On Feb 29, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Mueller, Milton L >>wrote: >> >> I agree with Martin. >> The CWG says that its proposal is dependent on the CCWG and until the >>CCWG is done the CWG is not done and we are not done. >> We gain nothing by jumping the gun >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf >>> Of Martin Boyle >>> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:32 PM >>> To: Alissa Cooper >>> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>> >>> Hi Alissa, >>> >>> Surely the accountability requirements will only be met if the CCWG- >>>Accountability proposal is adopted? Until then it is a conditional >>>agreement: >>> if the draft proposal were to be adopted, it would meet the CWG- >>>Stewardship's requirements. Put another way, if one or more >>>Chartering Organisation were to reject (or, for that matter, the >>>ICANN Board refused to >>> adopt) there is no CCWG-Accountability proposal and therefore the >>>conditionality has not been met. >>> >>> We'll look silly if we send in the proposal a day or so before one >>>of the Chartering Organisations rejected the draft... >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] >>> Sent: 29 February 2016 17:59 >>> To: Martin Boyle >>> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>> >>> Hi Martin, >>> >>>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Martin Boyle >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't we need to wait for the Chartering Organisations to adopt? >>> >>> No. The ICG proposal is explicit about this (on the front page and >>>in every highlighted section). What we were waiting for was the >>>CWG¹s confirmation, and we received that. Our proposal was not >>>conditioned on any action by the chartering organizations. >>> >>> Alissa >>> >>>> Many a slip and all that... It is only a draft until then. The >>>>CWG-Stewardship >>> endorsement is an important, but not a complete, condition. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf >>>> Of >>> Alissa Cooper >>>> Sent: 29 February 2016 16:48 >>>> To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >>>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal >>> meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to >>>approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN >>>Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that >>>previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this >>>message in redline and clean form. They are also available on >>>Dropbox: >>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal- >>> v10.docx?dl=0 >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal- >>> v10-clean.docx?dl=0 >>>> >>>> We will ask for the ICG¹s approval of this final version on our >>>>March >>>>1 call >>> (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: >>>> >>>> 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on >>>>communications plans >>>> >>>> Feedback on the agenda is welcome. >>>> >>>> Alissa >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Internal-cg mailing list >Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From jari.arkko at piuha.net Tue Mar 1 07:47:10 2016 From: jari.arkko at piuha.net (Jari Arkko) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:47:10 +0200 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in><511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in><7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> Message-ID: Trying to cut to the chase a bit. What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... So how about this reformulation of Alissa’s two items: 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Jari -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 842 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 08:12:05 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:12:05 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> Message-ID: Dear Alissa Yes to 1) As forwarding our proposal to NTIA through ICANN,,pls wait till 10 March ,end of ICANN 55 by which the decision of CCWG would be more clearer ( results of chartering organization's reply to the CCWG Proposal) We may organize another call as soon as that results are available and decide on the formal dispatch of ICG Proposal to NTIA Regards Kavouss 2016-03-01 8:47 GMT+01:00 Jari Arkko : > Trying to cut to the chase a bit. > > What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals > are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call > before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was > difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... > > So how about this reformulation of Alissa’s two items: > > 1. Agree that v10 is ready. > > 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete > if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. > > 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without > further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the > CCWG proposal. > > Jari > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jari.arkko at piuha.net Tue Mar 1 08:39:58 2016 From: jari.arkko at piuha.net (Jari Arkko) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 10:39:58 +0200 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> Message-ID: <87CF8B23-C493-491E-A8D3-C093D967EC38@piuha.net> Background: I’m very happy that we have come this far, tremendous amount of progress. And have a timeline that is, I think, realistic. We are very close, but of course not quite there. I am still concerned that we are at the final deadline for the transition during this administration; I’m concerned that a new administration and new people would probably mean a reset. Up-leveling a bit, the transition isn’t as important as our ecosystem. But there’s no going back to the status quo. We can’t fail, because failure do tremendous damage to the multistakeholder model, trust to our organisations, and so on. To the Internet. So my conclusion is that we need to finish this, and doing it in Marrakesh is absolutely essential. And then back on topic: I understand very well that when it comes to substance and substantial issues, we need to get them right. That is why the chartering organisations are looking hard at the CCWG proposal. We should give them the time and right to do so. However, I think we should do our part and be ready when it is practically possible. I think we can prepare ourselves and decide that if this is approved then we are also fine with it, and authorise the chairs to take the next steps. Obviously anything can happen, and if it does, we’ll need more discussions here in the ICG as well. But we should only do that if it is necessary. Jari -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 842 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From mnuduma at yahoo.com Tue Mar 1 08:58:09 2016 From: mnuduma at yahoo.com (Mary Uduma) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 09:58:09 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <87CF8B23-C493-491E-A8D3-C093D967EC38@piuha.net> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <87CF8B23-C493-491E-A8D3-C093D967EC38@piuha.net> Message-ID: <20160301085809.5398613.41071.3534@yahoo.com> Thank you Jari for your massage and reminders. I very much support your proposal and others who have counselled that ICG acts at the right time.   ‎I believe the call today will help fine tune our work and clear grey areas. Thank you Alissa for sending documents ahead of the call.  Mary Uduma Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Jari Arkko Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 09:41 To: Kavouss Arasteh Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Background: I’m very happy that we have come this far, tremendous amount of progress. And have a timeline that is, I think, realistic. We are very close, but of course not quite there. I am still concerned that we are at the final deadline for the transition during this administration; I’m concerned that a new administration and new people would probably mean a reset. Up-leveling a bit, the transition isn’t as important as our ecosystem. But there’s no going back to the status quo. We can’t fail, because failure do tremendous damage to the multistakeholder model, trust to our organisations, and so on. To the Internet. So my conclusion is that we need to finish this, and doing it in Marrakesh is absolutely essential. And then back on topic: I understand very well that when it comes to substance and substantial issues, we need to get them right. That is why the chartering organisations are looking hard at the CCWG proposal. We should give them the time and right to do so. However, I think we should do our part and be ready when it is practically possible. I think we can prepare ourselves and decide that if this is approved then we are also fine with it, and authorise the chairs to take the next steps. Obviously anything can happen, and if it does, we’ll need more discussions here in the ICG as well. But we should only do that if it is necessary. Jari From jjs at dyalog.net Tue Mar 1 09:09:19 2016 From: jjs at dyalog.net (Subrenat, Jean-Jacques) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 10:09:19 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <87CF8B23-C493-491E-A8D3-C093D967EC38@piuha.net> Message-ID: <1778449899.422.1456823357998.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> Dear Colleagues, because no f2f meeting was officially planned for ICG in the margins of ICANN-55, I have not received travel and accommodation support, and therefore will not be with you in Marrakech. I trust remote participation will be available for ICG meetings of any importance. In the meantime, - Political context: I agree with Jari and others that achieving closure at the end of ICANN-55 is an important -but also a realistic- objective for ICG. Because of the uncertainties of the Spoils System, new teams would require more time, with a political agenda in which "transition" might be viewed negatively. - Transmission of ICG Proposal: I agree with colleagues who want to make sure that the necessary confirmations have been notified in writing, before we act. Like Wolf-Ulrich, Manal and others, I think the Open Forum on Thursday 10th would be a good place for ICG to tick the last boxes. If all the criteria are met, then ICG should transmit its Proposal to the Administrator of the NTIA via the Chair of the ICANN Board, on 10 or 11 March. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Jari Arkko" À: "Kavouss Arasteh" Cc: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" Envoyé: Mardi 1 Mars 2016 09:39:58 Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Background: I’m very happy that we have come this far, tremendous amount of progress. And have a timeline that is, I think, realistic. We are very close, but of course not quite there. I am still concerned that we are at the final deadline for the transition during this administration; I’m concerned that a new administration and new people would probably mean a reset. Up-leveling a bit, the transition isn’t as important as our ecosystem. But there’s no going back to the status quo. We can’t fail, because failure do tremendous damage to the multistakeholder model, trust to our organisations, and so on. To the Internet. So my conclusion is that we need to finish this, and doing it in Marrakesh is absolutely essential. And then back on topic: I understand very well that when it comes to substance and substantial issues, we need to get them right. That is why the chartering organisations are looking hard at the CCWG proposal. We should give them the time and right to do so. However, I think we should do our part and be ready when it is practically possible. I think we can prepare ourselves and decide that if this is approved then we are also fine with it, and authorise the chairs to take the next steps. Obviously anything can happen, and if it does, we’ll need more discussions here in the ICG as well. But we should only do that if it is necessary. Jari _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Tue Mar 1 09:12:25 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 04:12:25 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> Message-ID: <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> this seems consistent with our charter obligations. On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: > Trying to cut to the chase a bit. > > What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... > > So how about this reformulation of Alissa’s two items: > > 1. Agree that v10 is ready. > > 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. > > 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. > > Jari > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Tue Mar 1 09:27:27 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 04:27:27 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] In-Reply-To: <61c8d385b6cd4f1da9f5510e545e8228@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <61c8d385b6cd4f1da9f5510e545e8228@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Message-ID: <56D5607F.3060903@oracle.com> Colleagues: should the latter point be phrased: With the confirmation of the all the Operational Communities that no further dependencies need to be addressed, ICG affirms that it has found that the combined proposals and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the relevant NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to the ICANN Board for submission to NTIA. I don't like the construction of "we approved"... Joe On 3/1/2016 1:29 AM, Manal Ismail wrote: > Many thanks Alissa for sharing this version in advance of the call .. > All looks good to me .. > I did 2 minor edits but have no strong position on any of them .. > Edits are attached in track changes, available on Dropbox and > underlined below for everyone's convenience: > Para X018 -> now X016: > Many commenters in the public comment period noted the CWG dependency > on ICANN-level accountability mechanisms that were, at the time of the > public comment period, under development in the CCWG and _noted_ the > associated difficulty in judging the overall accountability provided > by the Names proposal. > Rationale: this part of the sentence is now too far and I think we > need to link it back to what the commenters 'noted'. > Paras 112 and X031 -> now X029: > "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all > affected parties implement it. _The ICG approved this version and > agreed to submitting it to NTIA via the ICANN Board._" > Rationale: this was mentioned somewhere in the deleted text .. I feel > it's worth mentioning .. not necessarily here if there's a better > place .. > Looking forward to our call later today .. > Kind Regards > --Manal > -----Original Message----- > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of > Alissa Cooper > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:48 PM > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call > #26[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] > Dear all, > We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal > meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve > our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The > final proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously > referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in > redline and clean form. They are also available on Dropbox: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 > https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 > We will ask for the ICG’s approval of this final version on our March > 1 call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: > 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans > Feedback on the agenda is welcome. > Alissa > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net Tue Mar 1 10:51:27 2016 From: daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 11:51:27 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> Message-ID: <56D5742F.20602@ripe.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 1.03.16 8:47 , Jari Arkko wrote: > Trying to cut to the chase a bit. > > What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary > approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to > schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to > the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual > meeting during the ICANN week... > > So how about this reformulation of Alissa’s two items: > > 1. Agree that v10 is ready. > > 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are > complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the > chartering organisations. > > 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board > without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering > organisations approve the CCWG proposal. This makes perfect sense and prevents us from becoming a source of unnecessary delay. We should proceed in this way. Daniel Nit: replace "if {and,or} when" with "once". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJW1XQvAAoJENDY5Emqa716QxoQAKUSYjkU36sRr3YaK/iJccKx WjBONHacltFoiqc/hSkh+TnZqaBADywmPCOjdiCAIvO3QowBJcMmFamO8HGpzygg Du5DfzOBiXFl5KdDo8zlB0++g2NSxli0A4dSYlua/zOa7ZtO1RXZZ0WQls9br0qP IzRo7Nk7xEoLZ45zSMFxXfWO8yhmEx9t7/NEk6EaZfW1/lumx/Etf0zITdP4A7eQ B9mGNfUh7bJYDiu8X87J1eKAxF+aJS1vAVFft+nAL81YXuM7yhRXRAce6+9ey7v7 qz6sJ9ir4F+xaatvYR9Lp1t+2zCfM3qWcmYeLb6ABPbGgbwulxfnE9v+WRJL18vO wFZRmE4BywEOUowx7YsE6a1RBgtNiw7GZ690nerFRqJJDoe4IW0DLBRhuDh99AGH fvtRNpjcP0iDE2m2T+pH974Euz+w3w1qbxL9/xOcQmuNbJkesi8dJKdXbXZZ26bn mZ+VNAEhCRouCqO1QTC+bzBPKWcvbRaE371SHGgJPs0Ln6psQ7MmLREjHEOhm2yP K46uhwq0uUTcP6zegLvUoIG5EV2LkNIhOxgpIzyJerdi+bqdaLFrJ17j90Sql7Ea 9Ms3jAIdW38OFkyrjhbkUqMo3eFdoHvVthXVyTwkQlHPzf3t0A7MlyzSjsUy50HT ZUgzx0UTIJ3W92IVnNcs =0QWy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From manal at tra.gov.eg Tue Mar 1 11:05:51 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 11:05:51 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] In-Reply-To: <56D5607F.3060903@oracle.com> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <61c8d385b6cd4f1da9f5510e545e8228@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <56D5607F.3060903@oracle.com> Message-ID: Thanks Joe .. Much better .. I also did not like 'approve' .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:27 AM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] Colleagues: should the latter point be phrased: With the confirmation of the all the Operational Communities that no further dependencies need to be addressed, ICG affirms that it has found that the combined proposals and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the relevant NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to the ICANN Board for submission to NTIA. I don't like the construction of "we approved"... Joe On 3/1/2016 1:29 AM, Manal Ismail wrote: Many thanks Alissa for sharing this version in advance of the call .. All looks good to me .. I did 2 minor edits but have no strong position on any of them .. Edits are attached in track changes, available on Dropbox and underlined below for everyone's convenience: Para X018 -> now X016: Many commenters in the public comment period noted the CWG dependency on ICANN-level accountability mechanisms that were, at the time of the public comment period, under development in the CCWG and noted the associated difficulty in judging the overall accountability provided by the Names proposal. Rationale: this part of the sentence is now too far and I think we need to link it back to what the commenters 'noted'. Paras 112 and X031 -> now X029: "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG approved this version and agreed to submitting it to NTIA via the ICANN Board." Rationale: this was mentioned somewhere in the deleted text .. I feel it's worth mentioning .. not necessarily here if there's a better place .. Looking forward to our call later today .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:48 PM To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26[WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED] Dear all, We have received confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG proposal meets its requirements. Therefore, we are now in a position to approve our final proposal for transmission to NTIA via the ICANN Board. The final proposal, with edits made to the sections that previously referenced the CWG-CCWG dependency, is attached to this message in redline and clean form. They are also available on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lzepe727bxqz20/IANA-transition-proposal-v10.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/j65tohvyy59ellt/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-clean.docx?dl=0 We will ask for the ICG's approval of this final version on our March 1 call (12:00 UTC). Here is the proposed agenda for the call: 1. Approval of final transition proposal 2. Update on communications plans Feedback on the agenda is welcome. Alissa _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manal at tra.gov.eg Tue Mar 1 11:10:57 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 11:10:57 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> Message-ID: <1b2fdf2f01444d1088d53a1b25a2f174@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Agree to Jari's formulation, of course provided that (3) is conditioned on the current CCWG proposal being unchanged .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:12 AM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 this seems consistent with our charter obligations. On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: Trying to cut to the chase a bit. What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... So how about this reformulation of Alissa's two items: 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Jari _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lynn at lstamour.org Tue Mar 1 11:56:55 2016 From: lynn at lstamour.org (lynn at lstamour.org) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 04:56:55 -0700 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Message-ID: <20160301045655.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.926682ab21.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pwilson at apnic.net Tue Mar 1 12:05:14 2016 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 22:05:14 +1000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <20160301045655.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.926682ab21.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> References: <20160301045655.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.926682ab21.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <3B9E50E7-4432-4D93-99D3-E1CFF422B749@apnic.net> Sorry that I cannot join tonight’s call. I agree with Jari’s proposal. Thanks, Paul. On 1 Mar 2016, at 21:56, lynn at lstamour.org wrote: > I think this is a good way forward and would support it. > > > Lynn-------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 >> From: Jari Arkko >> <[jari.arkko at piuha.net](mailto:jari.arkko at piuha.net)> >> Date: Tue, March 01, 2016 12:47 am >> To: WUKnoben >> <[wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de](mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de)> >> Cc: "Mueller, Milton L" >> <[milton at gatech.edu](mailto:milton at gatech.edu)>, IANA etc >> etcCoordination >> Group <[internal-cg at ianacg.org](mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org)> >> >> Trying to cut to the chase a bit. >> >> What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary >> approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to >> schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the >> board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting >> during the ICANN week... >> >> So how about this reformulation of Alissa’s two items: >> >> 1. Agree that v10 is ready. >> >> 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are >> complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the >> chartering organisations. >> >> 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without >> further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve >> the CCWG proposal. >> >> Jari >> >> >> * * * > _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> [Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org](mailto:Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org) >> [http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org](http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org) > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg From Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk Tue Mar 1 12:07:56 2016 From: Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk (Martin Boyle) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 12:07:56 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <1b2fdf2f01444d1088d53a1b25a2f174@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> <1b2fdf2f01444d1088d53a1b25a2f174@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Message-ID: I'm happy with Jari's formulation - my concerns were about assuming agreement and submitting. I'm not sure when all the Chartering Organisations responses will be in, but I am assuming that the CCWG-Accountability will finalise on list and transmit - in time for this to be in front of the Board on Thursday afternoon, so I assume on Wednesday evening. It would be good if we could automatically pick this up (through the services of the Chairs) so that we submit immediately after CCWG-Accountability agreement. From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Manal Ismail Sent: 01 March 2016 11:11 To: Joseph Alhadeff ; internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Agree to Jari's formulation, of course provided that (3) is conditioned on the current CCWG proposal being unchanged .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:12 AM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 this seems consistent with our charter obligations. On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: Trying to cut to the chase a bit. What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... So how about this reformulation of Alissa's two items: 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Jari _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From narelle.clark at accan.org.au Tue Mar 1 12:12:18 2016 From: narelle.clark at accan.org.au (Narelle Clark) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 23:12:18 +1100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> Message-ID: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7CD50@ACCAN01.accan.local> I am in agreement with these formulations. 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Narelle Clark From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 8:12 PM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 this seems consistent with our charter obligations. On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: Trying to cut to the chase a bit. What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... So how about this reformulation of Alissa's two items: 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Jari _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jen at icgsec.asia Tue Mar 1 13:55:08 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:55:08 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 26: Attendance list and chat transcript Message-ID: <03d301d173c1$f8232430$e8696c90$@icgsec.asia> Dear All, Please find the attendance list (below) and chat transcript (attached) for ICG Call 25. Please let me know if you note any discrepancies. Attendance list: Alan Barrett (NRO) Alissa Cooper (IETF) Daniel Karrenberg (RSSAC) Demi Getschko (ISOC) Hartmut Glaser (ASO) James Bladel (gTLD Registries) Jandyr Ferreira dos Santos (GAC) Jari Arkko (IETF) Jean-Jacques Subrenat (ALAC) Jon Nevett (gTLD Registries) Kavouss Arasteh (GAC) Keith Drazek (gTLD Registries) Lars-Johan Liman (RSSAC) Lynn St. Amour (IAB) Manal Ismail (GAC) Martin Boyle (ccNSO) Mary Uduma (ccNSO) Michael Niebel (GAC) Narelle Clark (ISOC) Russ Mundy (SSAC) Patrik Fältström (SSAC) Wolf-Ulrich Knoben (GNSO) Xiaodong Lee (ccNSO) Apologies: Elise Gerich (IANA Staff Liaison) Joseph Alhadeff (ICC/BASIS) Keith Davidson (ccNSO) Kuo-wei Wu (Board Liaison) Milton Mueller (GNSO) Mohamed El Bashir (ALAC) Russ Housley (IAB) Paul Wilson (NRO) Thomas Schneider (GAC) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Call 26 chat transcript.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 368299 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbladel at godaddy.com Tue Mar 1 14:17:48 2016 From: jbladel at godaddy.com (James M. Bladel) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:17:48 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 26: Attendance list and chat transcript In-Reply-To: <03d301d173c1$f8232430$e8696c90$@icgsec.asia> References: <03d301d173c1$f8232430$e8696c90$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <98BD0270-99E2-4F49-B3A1-7CE9ECA33692@godaddy.com> Hi Jen- Just a correction that I am "gTLD Registrars." Keith D. and Jon N. are Registries. Thanks. Sent via iPhone. Blame Siri. On Mar 1, 2016, at 07:56, Jennifer Chung > wrote: Dear All, Please find the attendance list (below) and chat transcript (attached) for ICG Call 25. Please let me know if you note any discrepancies. Attendance list: Alan Barrett (NRO) Alissa Cooper (IETF) Daniel Karrenberg (RSSAC) Demi Getschko (ISOC) Hartmut Glaser (ASO) James Bladel (gTLD Registries) Jandyr Ferreira dos Santos (GAC) Jari Arkko (IETF) Jean-Jacques Subrenat (ALAC) Jon Nevett (gTLD Registries) Kavouss Arasteh (GAC) Keith Drazek (gTLD Registries) Lars-Johan Liman (RSSAC) Lynn St. Amour (IAB) Manal Ismail (GAC) Martin Boyle (ccNSO) Mary Uduma (ccNSO) Michael Niebel (GAC) Narelle Clark (ISOC) Russ Mundy (SSAC) Patrik F?ltstr?m (SSAC) Wolf-Ulrich Knoben (GNSO) Xiaodong Lee (ccNSO) Apologies: Elise Gerich (IANA Staff Liaison) Joseph Alhadeff (ICC/BASIS) Keith Davidson (ccNSO) Kuo-wei Wu (Board Liaison) Milton Mueller (GNSO) Mohamed El Bashir (ALAC) Russ Housley (IAB) Paul Wilson (NRO) Thomas Schneider (GAC) _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jen at icgsec.asia Tue Mar 1 14:24:46 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:24:46 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 26: Attendance list and chat transcript In-Reply-To: <98BD0270-99E2-4F49-B3A1-7CE9ECA33692@godaddy.com> References: <03d301d173c1$f8232430$e8696c90$@icgsec.asia> <98BD0270-99E2-4F49-B3A1-7CE9ECA33692@godaddy.com> Message-ID: <03f201d173c6$1c2e4bd0$548ae370$@icgsec.asia> Hi James, Many apologies! I have corrected your affiliation to ‘GNSO’ instead for ICG purposes. Best Regards, Jennifer From: James M. Bladel [mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:18 AM To: Jennifer Chung Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 26: Attendance list and chat transcript Hi Jen- Just a correction that I am "gTLD Registrars." Keith D. and Jon N. are Registries. Thanks. Sent via iPhone. Blame Siri. On Mar 1, 2016, at 07:56, Jennifer Chung > wrote: Dear All, Please find the attendance list (below) and chat transcript (attached) for ICG Call 25. Please let me know if you note any discrepancies. Attendance list: Alan Barrett (NRO) Alissa Cooper (IETF) Daniel Karrenberg (RSSAC) Demi Getschko (ISOC) Hartmut Glaser (ASO) James Bladel (GNSO) Jandyr Ferreira dos Santos (GAC) Jari Arkko (IETF) Jean-Jacques Subrenat (ALAC) Jon Nevett (gTLD Registries) Kavouss Arasteh (GAC) Keith Drazek (gTLD Registries) Lars-Johan Liman (RSSAC) Lynn St. Amour (IAB) Manal Ismail (GAC) Martin Boyle (ccNSO) Mary Uduma (ccNSO) Michael Niebel (GAC) Narelle Clark (ISOC) Russ Mundy (SSAC) Patrik Fältström (SSAC) Wolf-Ulrich Knoben (GNSO) Xiaodong Lee (ccNSO) Apologies: Elise Gerich (IANA Staff Liaison) Joseph Alhadeff (ICC/BASIS) Keith Davidson (ccNSO) Kuo-wei Wu (Board Liaison) Milton Mueller (GNSO) Mohamed El Bashir (ALAC) Russ Housley (IAB) Paul Wilson (NRO) Thomas Schneider (GAC) _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From milton at gatech.edu Tue Mar 1 14:49:06 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:49:06 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7CD50@ACCAN01.accan.local> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7CD50@ACCAN01.accan.local> Message-ID: Apologies for missing the call this morning. I am also in agreement with these proposals. --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Narelle Clark Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:12 AM To: Joseph Alhadeff ; internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 I am in agreement with these formulations. 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Narelle Clark From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 8:12 PM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 this seems consistent with our charter obligations. On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: Trying to cut to the chase a bit. What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... So how about this reformulation of Alissa's two items: 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Jari _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From milton at gatech.edu Tue Mar 1 14:51:54 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:51:54 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7CD50@ACCAN01.accan.local> Message-ID: Oh I meant to add this: I have heard that the in the negotiations between NRO and ICANN over the numbers IANA functions, that ICANN is attempting to undermine separability. Can the numbers people update on the status of those negotiations and is there a risk that ICANN will not agree to a proper implementation of the CRISP/ICG proposal, one that would allow the numbers community to select an alternate IANA functions operator? --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Mueller, Milton L Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:49 AM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Apologies for missing the call this morning. I am also in agreement with these proposals. --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Narelle Clark Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:12 AM To: Joseph Alhadeff >; internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 I am in agreement with these formulations. 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Narelle Clark From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 8:12 PM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 this seems consistent with our charter obligations. On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: Trying to cut to the chase a bit. What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... So how about this reformulation of Alissa's two items: 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Jari _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keith at internetnz.net.nz Tue Mar 1 16:49:42 2016 From: keith at internetnz.net.nz (Keith Davidson) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 05:49:42 +1300 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7CD50@ACCAN01.accan.local> References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7CD50@ACCAN01.accan.local> Message-ID: <56D5C826.5000504@internetnz.net.nz> Apologies for missing the call also. In agreement with the 3 steps proposed. Cheers Keith Davidson On 2/03/2016 1:12 a.m., Narelle Clark wrote: > I am in agreement with these formulations. > > 1. Agree that v10 is ready. > > 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. > > 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. > > Narelle Clark > > *From:*Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf Of > *Joseph Alhadeff > *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 March 2016 8:12 PM > *To:* internal-cg at ianacg.org > *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 > > this seems consistent with our charter obligations. > > On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: > > Trying to cut to the chase a bit. > > What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... > > So how about this reformulation of Alissa’s two items: > > 1. Agree that v10 is ready. > > 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. > > 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. > > Jari > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Internal-cg mailing list > > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From elise.gerich at icann.org Tue Mar 1 17:35:03 2016 From: elise.gerich at icann.org (Elise Gerich) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 17:35:03 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7CD50@ACCAN01.accan.local> Message-ID: Milton, I am engaged in the conversations with the NRO and it is a false rumor that ICANN is attempting to undermine separability which is one of the CRISP principles. — Elise From: Internal-cg on behalf of "Mueller, Milton L" Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 6:51 AM To: "Mueller, Milton L" , "internal-cg at ianacg.org" Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Oh I meant to add this: I have heard that the in the negotiations between NRO and ICANN over the numbers IANA functions, that ICANN is attempting to undermine separability. Can the numbers people update on the status of those negotiations and is there a risk that ICANN will not agree to a proper implementation of the CRISP/ICG proposal, one that would allow the numbers community to select an alternate IANA functions operator? --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Mueller, Milton L Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:49 AM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Apologies for missing the call this morning. I am also in agreement with these proposals. --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Narelle Clark Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:12 AM To: Joseph Alhadeff ; internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 I am in agreement with these formulations. 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Narelle Clark From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 8:12 PM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 this seems consistent with our charter obligations. On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: Trying to cut to the chase a bit. What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... So how about this reformulation of Alissa’s two items: 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Jari _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Summary of action items: 1. ICG chairs to circulate to the internal-cg mailing list the draft cover letter accompanying the final ICG proposal. 2. ICG members to send to the internal-cg mailing list any planned outreach activities about the proposal or process so the messages can be amplified. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Jennifer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alissa at cooperw.in Wed Mar 2 04:43:36 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 20:43:36 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal Message-ID: <2B4C29B6-F925-41B1-B0D4-7309EBB2F7DA@cooperw.in> See below. This would be for use on March 10, ideally. Feedback appreciated. —— To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. Regards, Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fälström, and Mohamed El Bashir on behalf of the ICG [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf —— From jen at icgsec.asia Wed Mar 2 05:36:20 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 00:36:20 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 27 - Monday 7 March, 07:30-08:30 WET/UTC Message-ID: <004801d17445$745cf6b0$5d16e410$@icgsec.asia> Dear All, ICG Call 27 will be held on Monday, 7 March, 07:30-08:30 WET/UTC (time conversion link: http://icgsec.asia/1T76nyU). By now you should have received individual calendar invites for this call - please let me know off-list if you have not received it yet and I'll be happy to assist. Due to limited technical support availability, this call will be held and recorded on Webex. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Jennifer From: Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:11 AM To: 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' Subject: CORRECTION: [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) Dear All, A correction to the Wednesday 9 March time slot choice: the doodle link selections are correct, the previous email had the Wednesday time slot listed incorrectly. Apologies to all for the inconvenience, and thank you Manal for bringing this to my attention. Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb All times UTC/WET Monday 7 March 07:30 - 08:30 18:00 - 19:00 Wednesday 9 March 18:30 - 19:30 Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Jennifer From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Chung Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 11:44 PM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) Dear All, Per the chairs, please find a doodle link below to schedule ICG Call #27 during ICANN week: Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb Please note that time zone has been enabled for this poll. For those who will be in Marrakech for ICANN 55, please ignore the automatic time zone conversion and please be aware that the time slots choices will be during Marrakech local time (WET) below: All times UTC/WET Monday 7 March 07:30 - 08:30 18:00 - 19:00 Wednesday 9 March 18:00 - 19:00 Responses by Wednesday 2 March is very much appreciated. Best Regards, Jennifer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjs at dyalog.net Wed Mar 2 07:21:55 2016 From: jjs at dyalog.net (Subrenat, Jean-Jacques) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 08:21:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal In-Reply-To: <2B4C29B6-F925-41B1-B0D4-7309EBB2F7DA@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <1453308200.11.1456903315685.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> Hello Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed, thanks for the draft message, which is in line with our online discussion yesterday 1st of March. I would just suggest one modification, for the sake of clarity: "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", instead of: "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal (...)". Best regards, Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Alissa Cooper" À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Mars 2016 05:43:36 Objet: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal See below. This would be for use on March 10, ideally. Feedback appreciated. —— To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. Regards, Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fälström, and Mohamed El Bashir on behalf of the ICG [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf —— _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net Wed Mar 2 10:37:07 2016 From: daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:37:07 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 27 - Monday 7 March, 07:30-08:30 WET/UTC In-Reply-To: <004801d17445$745cf6b0$5d16e410$@icgsec.asia> References: <004801d17445$745cf6b0$5d16e410$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <56D6C253.10408@ripe.net> Hadn't we decided to hold this call only in case of unforeseen events that might prevent our chairs from submitting the proposal? Has such an event occurred? Daniel On 2.03.16 6:36 , Jennifer Chung wrote: > Dear All, > > > > ICG Call 27 will be held on Monday, 7 March, 07:30-08:30 WET/UTC (time > conversion link: http://icgsec.asia/1T76nyU). By now you should have > received individual calendar invites for this call – please let me know > off-list if you have not received it yet and I’ll be happy to assist. > > > > Due to limited technical support availability, this call will be held > and recorded on Webex. Please let me know if you have any questions. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > > > *From:* Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] > *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:11 AM > *To:* 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' > *Subject:* CORRECTION: [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) > > > > Dear All, > > > > A correction to the Wednesday 9 March time slot choice: the doodle link > selections are correct, the previous email had the Wednesday time slot > listed incorrectly. Apologies to all for the inconvenience, and thank > you Manal for bringing this to my attention. > > > > Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb > > > > All times UTC/WET > > > > Monday 7 March > > 07:30 - 08:30 > > 18:00 - 19:00 > > > > Wednesday 9 March > > 18:30 - 19:30 > > > > Please let me know if you have any questions. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > > > *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf > Of *Jennifer Chung > *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 11:44 PM > *To:* internal-cg at ianacg.org > *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) > > > > Dear All, > > > > Per the chairs, please find a doodle link below to schedule ICG Call #27 > during ICANN week: > > > > Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb > > > > Please note that time zone has been enabled for this poll. For those > who will be in Marrakech for ICANN 55, please ignore the automatic time > zone conversion and please be aware that the time slots choices will be > during Marrakech local time (WET) below: > > > > All times UTC/WET > > > > Monday 7 March > > 07:30 - 08:30 > > 18:00 - 19:00 > > > > Wednesday 9 March > > 18:00 - 19:00 > > > > Responses by Wednesday 2 March is very much appreciated. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jennifer > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Wed Mar 2 11:52:35 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 06:52:35 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 27 - Monday 7 March, 07:30-08:30 WET/UTC In-Reply-To: <004801d17445$745cf6b0$5d16e410$@icgsec.asia> References: <004801d17445$745cf6b0$5d16e410$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <56D6D403.6030807@oracle.com> Further to Daniel's question, what is the purpose of this call? On 3/2/2016 12:36 AM, Jennifer Chung wrote: > > Dear All, > > ICG Call 27 will be held on Monday, 7 March, 07:30-08:30 WET/UTC (time > conversion link: http://icgsec.asia/1T76nyU). By now you should have > received individual calendar invites for this call – please let me > know off-list if you have not received it yet and I’ll be happy to assist. > > Due to limited technical support availability, this call will be held > and recorded on Webex. Please let me know if you have any questions. > > Best Regards, > > Jennifer > > *From:* Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] > *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:11 AM > *To:* 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' > *Subject:* CORRECTION: [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) > > Dear All, > > A correction to the Wednesday 9 March time slot choice: the doodle > link selections are correct, the previous email had the Wednesday time > slot listed incorrectly. Apologies to all for the inconvenience, and > thank you Manal for bringing this to my attention. > > Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb > > All times UTC/WET > > Monday 7 March > > 07:30 - 08:30 > > 18:00 - 19:00 > > Wednesday 9 March > > 18:30 - 19:30 > > Please let me know if you have any questions. > > Best Regards, > > Jennifer > > *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf > Of *Jennifer Chung > *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 11:44 PM > *To:* internal-cg at ianacg.org > *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) > > Dear All, > > Per the chairs, please find a doodle link below to schedule ICG Call > #27 during ICANN week: > > Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb > > Please note that time zone has been enabled for this poll. 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URL: From alissa at cooperw.in Wed Mar 2 13:00:55 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 05:00:55 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 27 - Monday 7 March, 07:30-08:30 WET/UTC In-Reply-To: <56D6C253.10408@ripe.net> References: <004801d17445$745cf6b0$5d16e410$@icgsec.asia> <56D6C253.10408@ripe.net> Message-ID: <481F32B4-CD35-4373-8A1E-47F31D5913FB@cooperw.in> Yes. If we do not put it on people’s calendars, they will fill the slot, so we have sent a calendar invite to secure the slot in case we need it. We will decide by March 6 at 22:00 UTC whether to cancel the call. Alissa > On Mar 2, 2016, at 2:37 AM, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > > Hadn't we decided to hold this call only in case of unforeseen events > that might prevent our chairs from submitting the proposal? > > Has such an event occurred? > > Daniel > > On 2.03.16 6:36 , Jennifer Chung wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> ICG Call 27 will be held on Monday, 7 March, 07:30-08:30 WET/UTC (time >> conversion link: http://icgsec.asia/1T76nyU). By now you should have >> received individual calendar invites for this call – please let me know >> off-list if you have not received it yet and I’ll be happy to assist. >> >> >> >> Due to limited technical support availability, this call will be held >> and recorded on Webex. Please let me know if you have any questions. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> *From:* Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] >> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:11 AM >> *To:* 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' >> *Subject:* CORRECTION: [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) >> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> A correction to the Wednesday 9 March time slot choice: the doodle link >> selections are correct, the previous email had the Wednesday time slot >> listed incorrectly. Apologies to all for the inconvenience, and thank >> you Manal for bringing this to my attention. >> >> >> >> Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb >> >> >> >> All times UTC/WET >> >> >> >> Monday 7 March >> >> 07:30 - 08:30 >> >> 18:00 - 19:00 >> >> >> >> Wednesday 9 March >> >> 18:30 - 19:30 >> >> >> >> Please let me know if you have any questions. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> *From:* Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Jennifer Chung >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 11:44 PM >> *To:* internal-cg at ianacg.org >> *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) >> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> Per the chairs, please find a doodle link below to schedule ICG Call #27 >> during ICANN week: >> >> >> >> Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb >> >> >> >> Please note that time zone has been enabled for this poll. For those >> who will be in Marrakech for ICANN 55, please ignore the automatic time >> zone conversion and please be aware that the time slots choices will be >> during Marrakech local time (WET) below: >> >> >> >> All times UTC/WET >> >> >> >> Monday 7 March >> >> 07:30 - 08:30 >> >> 18:00 - 19:00 >> >> >> >> Wednesday 9 March >> >> 18:00 - 19:00 >> >> >> >> Responses by Wednesday 2 March is very much appreciated. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From alissa at cooperw.in Wed Mar 2 17:41:14 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 09:41:14 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC Message-ID: <6DE32C62-78C6-4775-AB61-DB44F872C9EC@cooperw.in> Version attached incorporates edits from Manal and Joe, with minor wordsmithing from me in paras X029 and 112. The paragraphs now read: "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG affirms that this proposal and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to NTIA via the ICANN Board.” Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5zo7cliaxt010p/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvjozgwmqkp492o/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC-clean.docx?dl=0 This is the final version that we will forward to the Board/NTIA on March 10 if all goes well. Alissa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From milton at gatech.edu Wed Mar 2 21:01:34 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 21:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 In-Reply-To: References: <4E9DBB06-86C5-4C8C-AE38-A338608CC0C5@cooperw.in> <511B6409-9536-4DB4-A997-0516F8961BD5@cooperw.in> <7B02818A-653B-4ECD-B336-400520682839@cooperw.in> <8c7913a90bdc4036973272ce3ad67125@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <9769CEAB7CA045AA89232D009E747D50@WUKPC> <56D55CF9.5050105@oracle.com> <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7CD50@ACCAN01.accan.local> Message-ID: Alas, it’s not a rumor, it’s a report from people involved in the negotiations. Can someone from NRO or an RIR respond, please? --MM From: Elise Gerich [mailto:elise.gerich at icann.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 12:35 PM To: Mueller, Milton L ; internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Milton, I am engaged in the conversations with the NRO and it is a false rumor that ICANN is attempting to undermine separability which is one of the CRISP principles. — Elise From: Internal-cg > on behalf of "Mueller, Milton L" > Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 6:51 AM To: "Mueller, Milton L" >, "internal-cg at ianacg.org" > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Oh I meant to add this: I have heard that the in the negotiations between NRO and ICANN over the numbers IANA functions, that ICANN is attempting to undermine separability. Can the numbers people update on the status of those negotiations and is there a risk that ICANN will not agree to a proper implementation of the CRISP/ICG proposal, one that would allow the numbers community to select an alternate IANA functions operator? --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Mueller, Milton L Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:49 AM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 Apologies for missing the call this morning. I am also in agreement with these proposals. --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Narelle Clark Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:12 AM To: Joseph Alhadeff >; internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 I am in agreement with these formulations. 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Narelle Clark From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Alhadeff Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 8:12 PM To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal approval and agenda for call #26 this seems consistent with our charter obligations. On 3/1/2016 2:47 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: Trying to cut to the chase a bit. What is important, I think, is that once (and if) the necessary approvals are in, the ICG can act quickly and does not have to schedule another call before it can send the proposal forward to the board. I recall that it was difficult to setup a virtual meeting during the ICANN week... So how about this reformulation of Alissa’s two items: 1. Agree that v10 is ready. 2. Agree that, per the CWG message, dependencies to CCWG work are complete if or when the current proposal is approved by the chartering organisations. 3. Authorise the ICG chairs to send the proposal to the board without further ICG meeting, if and when the chartering organisations approve the CCWG proposal. Jari _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mundy at tislabs.com Wed Mar 2 23:15:32 2016 From: mundy at tislabs.com (Russ Mundy) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 18:15:32 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal In-Reply-To: <1453308200.11.1456903315685.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> References: <1453308200.11.1456903315685.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> Message-ID: <84EAEDD4-807D-4B91-AD62-0B3FB97E1318@tislabs.com> Alissa, Nicely worded letter. I think JJ’s suggested change reads a bit smoother but if there is strong preference for original structure, I’m okay with that also. Russ M On Mar 2, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote: > Hello Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed, > > thanks for the draft message, which is in line with our online discussion yesterday 1st of March. > > I would just suggest one modification, for the sake of clarity: > "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", > > instead of: > "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal (...)". > > Best regards, > Jean-Jacques. > > > > > > > > ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Alissa Cooper" > À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" > Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Mars 2016 05:43:36 > Objet: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal > > See below. This would be for use on March 10, ideally. Feedback appreciated. > > —— > > To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling > In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair > > The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. > > According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. > > Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. > > Regards, > Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fälström, and Mohamed El Bashir > on behalf of the ICG > > [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html > [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf > > —— > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Thu Mar 3 11:15:30 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 06:15:30 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal In-Reply-To: <84EAEDD4-807D-4B91-AD62-0B3FB97E1318@tislabs.com> References: <1453308200.11.1456903315685.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> <84EAEDD4-807D-4B91-AD62-0B3FB97E1318@tislabs.com> Message-ID: <56D81CD2.2050706@oracle.com> fine with both versions, agree with Russ on preference. Joe On 3/2/2016 6:15 PM, Russ Mundy wrote: > Alissa, > > Nicely worded letter. I think JJ’s suggested change reads a bit smoother but if there is strong preference for original structure, I’m okay with that also. > > Russ M > > On Mar 2, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote: > >> Hello Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed, >> >> thanks for the draft message, which is in line with our online discussion yesterday 1st of March. >> >> I would just suggest one modification, for the sake of clarity: >> "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", >> >> instead of: >> "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal (...)". >> >> Best regards, >> Jean-Jacques. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Mail original ----- >> De: "Alissa Cooper" >> À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" >> Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Mars 2016 05:43:36 >> Objet: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal >> >> See below. This would be for use on March 10, ideally. Feedback appreciated. >> >> —— >> >> To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling >> In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair >> >> The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. >> >> According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. >> >> Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. >> >> Regards, >> Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fälström, and Mohamed El Bashir >> on behalf of the ICG >> >> [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html >> [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf >> >> —— >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From lynn at lstamour.org Thu Mar 3 13:01:00 2016 From: lynn at lstamour.org (lynn at lstamour.org) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 06:01:00 -0700 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC Message-ID: <20160303060100.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.4c502d67e5.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 12:59:47 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 13:59:47 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal In-Reply-To: <56D81CD2.2050706@oracle.com> References: <1453308200.11.1456903315685.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> <84EAEDD4-807D-4B91-AD62-0B3FB97E1318@tislabs.com> <56D81CD2.2050706@oracle.com> Message-ID: Jean-Jaques+1 Kavousd Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Mar 2016, at 12:15, Joseph Alhadeff wrote: > > fine with both versions, agree with Russ on preference. > > Joe > >> On 3/2/2016 6:15 PM, Russ Mundy wrote: >> Alissa, >> >> Nicely worded letter. I think JJ’s suggested change reads a bit smoother but if there is strong preference for original structure, I’m okay with that also. >> >> Russ M >> >>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote: >>> >>> Hello Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed, >>> >>> thanks for the draft message, which is in line with our online discussion yesterday 1st of March. >>> >>> I would just suggest one modification, for the sake of clarity: >>> "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", >>> >>> instead of: >>> "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal (...)". >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jean-Jacques. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Mail original ----- >>> De: "Alissa Cooper" >>> À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" >>> Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Mars 2016 05:43:36 >>> Objet: [Internal-cg] Draft email to accompany proposal >>> >>> See below. This would be for use on March 10, ideally. Feedback appreciated. >>> >>> —— >>> >>> To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling >>> In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair >>> >>> The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. >>> >>> According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA without making any changes within 14 days of receiving the proposal and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. >>> >>> Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fälström, and Mohamed El Bashir >>> on behalf of the ICG >>> >>> [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html >>> [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf >>> >>> —— >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >>> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From alissa at cooperw.in Thu Mar 3 13:15:17 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 05:15:17 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC In-Reply-To: <20160303060100.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.4c502d67e5.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> References: <20160303060100.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.4c502d67e5.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Thanks Lynn and all. The edited version is below. — To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. Regards, Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fältström, and Mohamed El Bashir on behalf of the ICG [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf — > On Mar 3, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Lynn at LStAmour.org wrote: > > Alissa, > > I like this edit alot, and support this version. > > I also support Jean-Jacques last suggestion re rewording a sentence: "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", > > Best, > Lynn > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC > From: Alissa Cooper > > Date: Wed, March 02, 2016 10:41 am > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > > > Version attached incorporates edits from Manal and Joe, with minor wordsmithing from me in paras X029 and 112. The paragraphs now read: > > "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG affirms that this proposal and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to NTIA via the ICANN Board.” > > Dropbox: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5zo7cliaxt010p/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC.docx?dl=0 > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvjozgwmqkp492o/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC-clean.docx?dl=0 > > This is the final version that we will forward to the Board/NTIA on March 10 if all goes well. > > Alissa > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjs at dyalog.net Thu Mar 3 13:38:47 2016 From: jjs at dyalog.net (Subrenat, Jean-Jacques) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:38:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <504770258.323.1457012324941.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> This final version has my approval. Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Alissa Cooper" À: Lynn at LStAmour.org Cc: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" Envoyé: Jeudi 3 Mars 2016 14:15:17 Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC Thanks Lynn and all. The edited version is below. — To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. Regards, Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fältström, and Mohamed El Bashir on behalf of the ICG [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf — On Mar 3, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Lynn at LStAmour.org wrote: Alissa, I like this edit alot, and support this version. I also support Jean-Jacques last suggestion re rewording a sentence: "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", Best, Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC From: Alissa Cooper < alissa at cooperw.in > Date: Wed, March 02, 2016 10:41 am To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group < internal-cg at ianacg.org > Version attached incorporates edits from Manal and Joe, with minor wordsmithing from me in paras X029 and 112. The paragraphs now read: "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG affirms that this proposal and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to NTIA via the ICANN Board.” Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5zo7cliaxt010p/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvjozgwmqkp492o/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC-clean.docx?dl=0 This is the final version that we will forward to the Board/NTIA on March 10 if all goes well. Alissa _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From milton at gatech.edu Thu Mar 3 14:40:27 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:40:27 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC In-Reply-To: References: <20160303060100.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.4c502d67e5.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Looks good to me. Thanks, Alissa --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:15 AM To: Lynn at LStAmour.org Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC Thanks Lynn and all. The edited version is below. — To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. Regards, Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fältström, and Mohamed El Bashir on behalf of the ICG [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf — On Mar 3, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Lynn at LStAmour.org wrote: Alissa, I like this edit alot, and support this version. I also support Jean-Jacques last suggestion re rewording a sentence: "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", Best, Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC From: Alissa Cooper > Date: Wed, March 02, 2016 10:41 am To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Version attached incorporates edits from Manal and Joe, with minor wordsmithing from me in paras X029 and 112. The paragraphs now read: "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG affirms that this proposal and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to NTIA via the ICANN Board.” Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5zo7cliaxt010p/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvjozgwmqkp492o/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC-clean.docx?dl=0 This is the final version that we will forward to the Board/NTIA on March 10 if all goes well. Alissa ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manal at tra.gov.eg Thu Mar 3 15:24:29 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 15:24:29 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC In-Reply-To: References: <20160303060100.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.4c502d67e5.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> , Message-ID: <24E7C3AF-ECD2-4CE0-B0A5-22655BBC8ABB@tra.gov.eg> I'm fine with the below version too .. Many thanks Alissa .. Kind Regards --Manal Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Mueller, Milton L > wrote: Looks good to me. Thanks, Alissa --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:15 AM To: Lynn at LStAmour.org Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC Thanks Lynn and all. The edited version is below. - To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. Regards, Alissa Cooper, Patrik F?ltstr?m, and Mohamed El Bashir on behalf of the ICG [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf - On Mar 3, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Lynn at LStAmour.org wrote: Alissa, I like this edit alot, and support this version. I also support Jean-Jacques last suggestion re rewording a sentence: "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", Best, Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC From: Alissa Cooper > Date: Wed, March 02, 2016 10:41 am To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Version attached incorporates edits from Manal and Joe, with minor wordsmithing from me in paras X029 and 112. The paragraphs now read: "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG affirms that this proposal and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to NTIA via the ICANN Board." Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5zo7cliaxt010p/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvjozgwmqkp492o/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC-clean.docx?dl=0 This is the final version that we will forward to the Board/NTIA on March 10 if all goes well. Alissa ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From mnuduma at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 18:50:38 2016 From: mnuduma at yahoo.com (mnuduma) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:50:38 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC Message-ID: +1  Many thanks Alissa, and all. Mary Uduma Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Manal Ismail Date: 03/03/2016 15:24 (GMT+00:00) To: "Mueller, Milton L" Cc: Lynn at LStAmour.org,IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC I'm fine with the below version too .. Many thanks Alissa .. Kind Regards --Manal Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Mueller, Milton L > wrote: Looks good to me. Thanks, Alissa --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:15 AM To: Lynn at LStAmour.org Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC Thanks Lynn and all. The edited version is below. - To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. Regards, Alissa Cooper, Patrik F?ltstr?m, and Mohamed El Bashir on behalf of the ICG [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf - On Mar 3, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Lynn at LStAmour.org wrote: Alissa, I like this edit alot, and support this version. I also support Jean-Jacques last suggestion re rewording a sentence: "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", Best, Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC From: Alissa Cooper > Date: Wed, March 02, 2016 10:41 am To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Version attached incorporates edits from Manal and Joe, with minor wordsmithing from me in paras X029 and 112. The paragraphs now read: "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG affirms that this proposal and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to NTIA via the ICANN Board." Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5zo7cliaxt010p/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvjozgwmqkp492o/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC-clean.docx?dl=0 This is the final version that we will forward to the Board/NTIA on March 10 if all goes well. Alissa ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk Thu Mar 3 20:48:24 2016 From: Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk (Martin Boyle) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 20:48:24 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, fine by me, too. Thanks for sorting this Alissa & colleagues Martin From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of mnuduma Sent: 03 March 2016 18:51 To: Manal Ismail ; Mueller, Milton L Cc: Lynn at LStAmour.org; IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC +1 Many thanks Alissa, and all. Mary Uduma Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Manal Ismail > Date: 03/03/2016 15:24 (GMT+00:00) To: "Mueller, Milton L" > Cc: Lynn at LStAmour.org,IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC I'm fine with the below version too .. Many thanks Alissa .. Kind Regards --Manal Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Mueller, Milton L >> wrote: Looks good to me. Thanks, Alissa --MM From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:15 AM To: Lynn at LStAmour.org> Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC Thanks Lynn and all. The edited version is below. - To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. Regards, Alissa Cooper, Patrik F?ltstr?m, and Mohamed El Bashir on behalf of the ICG [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf - On Mar 3, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Lynn at LStAmour.org> wrote: Alissa, I like this edit alot, and support this version. I also support Jean-Jacques last suggestion re rewording a sentence: "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", Best, Lynn -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC From: Alissa Cooper >> Date: Wed, March 02, 2016 10:41 am To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> Version attached incorporates edits from Manal and Joe, with minor wordsmithing from me in paras X029 and 112. The paragraphs now read: "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. The ICG affirms that this proposal and all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter and mandate, including the NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit this proposal to NTIA via the ICANN Board." Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5zo7cliaxt010p/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC.docx?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvjozgwmqkp492o/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC-clean.docx?dl=0 This is the final version that we will forward to the Board/NTIA on March 10 if all goes well. Alissa ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alissa at cooperw.in Sat Mar 5 00:30:21 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:30:21 -0800 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA Stewardship Transition and Accountability discussions at ICANN55 In-Reply-To: <032f01d172a4$17e56e50$47b04af0$@icgsec.asia> References: <032f01d172a4$17e56e50$47b04af0$@icgsec.asia> Message-ID: <75E2038E-6950-4862-93BC-773AFC7721FD@cooperw.in> There is one missing from this list, the CCWG meeting on March 10 from 9:00 to 12:00 WET: > This is the meeting where, if all goes well, the CCWG will send their proposal to the ICANN Board. We will send ours simultaneously. Alissa > On Feb 28, 2016, at 7:48 PM, Jennifer Chung wrote: > > Dear All, > > Please see below for a listing of IANA Stewardship Transition and Accountability discussions at ICANN55: > > For a tabled version, and remote participation links if available: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/volume-13-an-update-on-iana-stewardship-discussions > For the full ICANN schedule: https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule-full > Meeting guide and venue map: see attached pdf, meeting room locations for each session in parentheses below. > > 5 Mar 12:45-15:00 GNSO: CCWG-Accountability Discussion (Diamant) > 14:30-16:00 GAC: IANA Transition and ICANN Accountability: Overview (Cristal) > 17:00-18:00 GAC: Position as a Chartering Organisation for CCWG Accountability (Cristal) > > 6 Mar 08:30-12:30 GAC: Position as a Chartering Organisation for CCWG-Accountability (Cristal) > 11:15-11:45 GNSO: Update on CWG-Stewardship Implementation (Diamant) > 11:45-13:00 GNSO: Update on CCWG-Accountability (Diamant) > > 7 Mar 10:15-11:30 High-Level Governmental Meeting: IANA Stewardship Transition Outcomes (Cristal) > 10:30-11:45 IANA Stewardship Transition Implementation (Atlas) > 11:45-13:15 High-Level Governmental Meeting: Enhancing ICANN Accountability and Governments role in the new ICANN framework (Cristal) > 13:30-15:00 CCWG-Accountability Engagement Session (Atlas) > > 8 Mar 11:00-12:30 ccNSO: IANA Stewardship Transition Process (Roseraie) > 12:00-12:30 GAC: Position as a Chartering Organisation for CCWG-Accountability (Cristal) > 14:30-15:30 GAC: Position as a Chartering Organisation for CCWG-Accountability (Cristal) > 16:00-18:00 GAC: Finalize GAC Position as a Chartering Organization for CCWG-Accountability (Cristal) > > 9 Mar 13:30-15:30 GNSO Council meeting (Toubkal) > 13:30-18:00 ccNSO: IANA Stewardship Transition Process and ccNSO Council Meeting (Oliveraie) > > 10 Mar 16:00-17:30 ICANN Public Board Meeting (Atlas) > > > Please let me know if you have any questions. > > Best Regards, > > Jennifer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:56 PM > To: 'Paul Wilson' > Cc: 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' > Subject: RE: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting > > Dear Paul and All, > > I believe the Internet Governance Public Session may be on some broader topics (including WSIS+10 and IGF). I have sent a query to the ICANN team as there may be some sessions where the transition will be discussed that is not apparent from the session title. I will put together a fuller list of events for the ICG's reference as soon as I am able to confirm. > > Best Regards, > > Jennifer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pwilson at apnic.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:00 PM > To: Jennifer Chung > Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG members attending the Marrakech meeting > > Hi Jennifer, > > I’ll be there for most of the period. > > Could we possibly have a recap/reminder of any IANA related events which are happening in Marrakech? > > I notice: > > - IANA stewardship implementation, Monday > - The Role of the Ombudsman Post Transition, Weds > - Internet Governance Public Sesssion, Thursday > > https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule-full > > > Thanks > > Paul. > > > > > On 18 Feb 2016, at 5:21, Jennifer Chung wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> The Secretariat will be looking into setting up an informal social >> gathering for ICG members attending ICANN Marrakech. Please let me >> know if you will be in Marrakech so we can find a suitable date/time >> that will work best for everyone. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net > http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Keith On 4/03/2016 9:48 a.m., Martin Boyle wrote: > Yes, fine by me, too. > > Thanks for sorting this Alissa & colleagues > > Martin > > *From:*Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] *On Behalf Of > *mnuduma > *Sent:* 03 March 2016 18:51 > *To:* Manal Ismail ; Mueller, Milton L > *Cc:* Lynn at LStAmour.org; IANA etc etcCoordination Group > > *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC > > +1 > > Many thanks Alissa, and all. > > Mary Uduma > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Manal Ismail > > Date: 03/03/2016 15:24 (GMT+00:00) > To: "Mueller, Milton L" > > Cc: Lynn at LStAmour.org,IANA etc > etcCoordination Group > > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC > > > I'm fine with the below version too .. > Many thanks Alissa .. > Kind Regards > --Manal > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 3, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Mueller, Milton L > >> wrote: > > Looks good to me. Thanks, Alissa > --MM > > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of > Alissa Cooper > Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:15 AM > To: Lynn at LStAmour.org > > Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > >> > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC > > Thanks Lynn and all. The edited version is below. > > - > > To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling > In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair > > The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized > the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to > the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final proposal is attached > to this email and available at . The ICG unanimously supports this > proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. > > According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board > in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send > the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any > changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends > to NTIA together with the proposal. Given that the ICG has received no > indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the proposal, > we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its > correspondence to NTIA. > > Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. > > Regards, > Alissa Cooper, Patrik F?ltstr?m, and Mohamed El Bashir > on behalf of the ICG > > [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html > [2] > https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf > > - > > > On Mar 3, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Lynn at LStAmour.org > wrote: > > Alissa, > > I like this edit alot, and support this version. > > I also support Jean-Jacques last suggestion re rewording a sentence: > "the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the report to NTIA > within 14 days of receiving the proposal, without making any changes (...)", > > Best, > Lynn > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC > From: Alissa Cooper >> > Date: Wed, March 02, 2016 10:41 am > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > >> > > Version attached incorporates edits from Manal and Joe, with minor > wordsmithing from me in paras X029 and 112. The paragraphs now read: > > "The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all > affected parties implement it. The ICG affirms that this proposal and > all the related processes have met the criteria laid out in our charter > and mandate, including the NTIA criteria, and on this basis we transmit > this proposal to NTIA via the ICANN Board." > > Dropbox: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5zo7cliaxt010p/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC.docx?dl=0 > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvjozgwmqkp492o/IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC-clean.docx?dl=0 > > This is the final version that we will forward to the Board/NTIA on > March 10 if all goes well. > > Alissa > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jari.arkko at piuha.net Sun Mar 6 15:29:26 2016 From: jari.arkko at piuha.net (Jari Arkko) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 15:29:26 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] IANA-transition-proposal-v10-MI-JA-AC In-Reply-To: References: <20160303060100.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.4c502d67e5.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Final version looks good here as well. 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By now you should have >received individual calendar invites for this call - please let me know >off-list if you have not received it yet and I'll be happy to assist. > > > >Due to limited technical support availability, this call will be held and >recorded on Webex. Please let me know if you have any questions. > > > >Best Regards, > > > >Jennifer > > > >From: Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen at icgsec.asia] >Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:11 AM >To: 'internal-cg at ianacg.org' >Subject: CORRECTION: [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) > > > >Dear All, > > > >A correction to the Wednesday 9 March time slot choice: the doodle link >selections are correct, the previous email had the Wednesday time slot >listed incorrectly. Apologies to all for the inconvenience, and thank you >Manal for bringing this to my attention. > > > >Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb > > > >All times UTC/WET > > > >Monday 7 March > >07:30 - 08:30 > >18:00 - 19:00 > > > >Wednesday 9 March > >18:30 - 19:30 > > > >Please let me know if you have any questions. > > > >Best Regards, > > > >Jennifer > > > >From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of >Jennifer Chung >Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 11:44 PM >To: internal-cg at ianacg.org >Subject: [Internal-cg] Doodle for ICG Call 27 (March) > > > >Dear All, > > > >Per the chairs, please find a doodle link below to schedule ICG Call #27 >during ICANN week: > > > >Doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/5yty87ei97g72knb > > > >Please note that time zone has been enabled for this poll. 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AFTER WE DELIVER THE PROPOSAL TO THE NTIA, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL BE INTERESTED IN THE VIEWS OF INDUSTRY AS TO THE TRANSITION. THE LAST REMAINING GAPING HOLE IS THE ROOT ZONE MAINTAINER AGREEMENT. AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS BEFORE WE CAN RENDER AN OPINION. CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO PUBLISH SOMETHING ON THAT AGREEMENT AKRAM ATALLAH: THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO FINALIZE A FEW REMAINING ISSUES ON THE AGREEMENT. WE PLAN TO PUBLISH AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE WORK WITH VERISIGN, OUR PARTNER IN THIS, AND NTIA TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUBLISH HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH, IF NOT THE ENTIRE AGREEMENT, MAYBE THE HEAD OF TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING, AS MUCH AS WE CAN THAT IS FINALIZED.BUT THE AGREEMENT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE SERVICES, THE MAINTAINER SERVICES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND IT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE HAVE A GRACE FROM BOTH PARTIES TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT AND ESPECIALLY IF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE CSC OR RZERC ASKS US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS OR OPEN UP FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS, ALL THE RIGHTS WILL BE HERE FOR THE AGREEMENT.WE'VE AGREED ON MOST OF THESE -- THE TERMS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN THE AGREEMENT. THE REMAINING ISSUES ARE MORE REGULAR TERMS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING SO I DON'T FORESEE ANY MAJOR ISSUES. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO POST SOMETHING BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH. THANK YOU. IN ALL DUE RESPECT, THE END OF THE MONTH IS PRETTY -- IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 200 MEMBERS OF THE CCWG JUMPED THROUGH HOOPS TO DEAL WITH A LOT MORE PARTIES THAN TWO TO GET HERE TO MARRAKECH. TO PUT A FINER ON THAT, SOME OF US MIGHT GET ASKED THAT ON ST. PATRICK'S DAY IN A PUBLIC FORUM. 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THE LAST REMAINING GAPING HOLE IS THE ROOT ZONE MAINTAINER AGREEMENT. AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS BEFORE WE CAN RENDER AN OPINION. CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO PUBLISH SOMETHING ON THAT AGREEMENT AKRAM ATALLAH: THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO FINALIZE A FEW REMAINING ISSUES ON THE AGREEMENT. WE PLAN TO PUBLISH AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE WORK WITH VERISIGN, OUR PARTNER IN THIS, AND NTIA TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUBLISH HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH, IF NOT THE ENTIRE AGREEMENT, MAYBE THE HEAD OF TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING, AS MUCH AS WE CAN THAT IS FINALIZED.BUT THE AGREEMENT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE SERVICES, THE MAINTAINER SERVICES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND IT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE HAVE A GRACE FROM BOTH PARTIES TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT AND ESPECIALLY IF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE CSC OR RZERC ASKS US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS OR OPEN UP FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS, ALL THE RIGHTS WILL BE HERE FOR THE AGREEMENT.WE'VE AGREED ON MOST OF THESE -- THE TERMS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN THE AGREEMENT. THE REMAINING ISSUES ARE MORE REGULAR TERMS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING SO I DON'T FORESEE ANY MAJOR ISSUES. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO POST SOMETHING BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH. THANK YOU. IN ALL DUE RESPECT, THE END OF THE MONTH IS PRETTY -- IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 200 MEMBERS OF THE CCWG JUMPED THROUGH HOOPS TO DEAL WITH A LOT MORE PARTIES THAN TWO TO GET HERE TO MARRAKECH. TO PUT A FINER ON THAT, SOME OF US MIGHT GET ASKED THAT ON ST. PATRICK'S DAY IN A PUBLIC FORUM. CAN WE GET A COMMITMENT FROM THE BOARD TO PUBLISH SOMETHING IN WRITING END OF BUSINESS MARCH 14th. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de Wed Mar 9 15:16:25 2016 From: wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de (WUKnoben) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 15:16:25 -0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] got it!!! Message-ID: <562564C70CBC4E5381DD8F71D7EDEADC@WUKPC> The CCWG proposal was just approved by the GNSO council. Details shall be made available soon. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pwilson at apnic.net Wed Mar 9 15:46:07 2016 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:46:07 +1000 Subject: [Internal-cg] got it!!! In-Reply-To: <562564C70CBC4E5381DD8F71D7EDEADC@WUKPC> References: <562564C70CBC4E5381DD8F71D7EDEADC@WUKPC> Message-ID: <1099F6B0-2A97-423F-84C8-5952DCADD246@apnic.net> Hooray! On 10 Mar 2016, at 1:16, WUKnoben wrote: > The CCWG proposal was just approved by the GNSO council. > > Details shall be made available soon. > > Best regards > > Wolf-Ulrich > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg From elise.gerich at icann.org Wed Mar 9 15:58:11 2016 From: elise.gerich at icann.org (Elise Gerich) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 15:58:11 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] got it!!! In-Reply-To: <1099F6B0-2A97-423F-84C8-5952DCADD246@apnic.net> References: <562564C70CBC4E5381DD8F71D7EDEADC@WUKPC>, <1099F6B0-2A97-423F-84C8-5952DCADD246@apnic.net> Message-ID: <8A01648E-2EBF-45AC-A565-E0424684CA03@icann.org> Wonderful! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Paul Wilson wrote: > > Hooray! > >> On 10 Mar 2016, at 1:16, WUKnoben wrote: >> >> The CCWG proposal was just approved by the GNSO council. >> >> Details shall be made available soon. >> >> Best regards >> >> Wolf-Ulrich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net > http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From mundy at tislabs.com Wed Mar 9 16:00:10 2016 From: mundy at tislabs.com (Russ Mundy) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:00:10 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Verisign and the RZMA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote: > By the way when reading the live transcript, keep in mind that Russ Mundy’ name was changed to “Russ Million Dollars” in the transcript. > > This is the universe’s revenge for him calling me Martin, I think. Well put, MILTON!! :-)) Russ > > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Mueller, Milton L > Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 9:09 AM > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] FW: Verisign and the RZMA > > From the transcript Monday > > MIKE (SAYING NAME), INTEL. AFTER WE DELIVER THE PROPOSAL TO THE NTIA, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL BE INTERESTED IN THE VIEWS OF INDUSTRY AS TO THE TRANSITION. THE LAST REMAINING GAPING HOLE IS THE ROOT ZONE MAINTAINER AGREEMENT. AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS BEFORE WE CAN RENDER AN OPINION. CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO PUBLISH SOMETHING ON THAT AGREEMENT > > AKRAM ATALLAH: THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO FINALIZE A FEW REMAINING ISSUES ON THE AGREEMENT. WE PLAN TO PUBLISH AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE WORK WITH VERISIGN, OUR PARTNER IN THIS, AND NTIA TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUBLISH HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH, IF NOT THE ENTIRE AGREEMENT, MAYBE THE HEAD OF TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING, AS MUCH AS WE CAN THAT IS FINALIZED.BUT THE AGREEMENT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE SERVICES, THE MAINTAINER SERVICES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND IT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE HAVE A GRACE FROM BOTH PARTIES TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT AND ESPECIALLY IF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE CSC OR RZERC ASKS US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS OR OPEN UP FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS, ALL THE RIGHTS WILL BE HERE FOR THE AGREEMENT.WE'VE AGREED ON MOST OF THESE -- THE TERMS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN THE AGREEMENT. THE REMAINING ISSUES ARE MORE REGULAR TERMS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING SO I DON'T FORESEE ANY MAJOR ISSUES. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO POST SOMETHING BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH. > > THANK YOU. IN ALL DUE RESPECT, THE END OF THE MONTH IS PRETTY -- IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 200 MEMBERS OF THE CCWG JUMPED THROUGH HOOPS TO DEAL WITH A LOT MORE PARTIES THAN TWO TO GET HERE TO MARRAKECH. TO PUT A FINER ON THAT, SOME OF US MIGHT GET ASKED THAT ON ST. PATRICK'S DAY IN A PUBLIC FORUM. CAN WE GET A COMMITMENT FROM THE BOARD TO PUBLISH SOMETHING IN WRITING END OF BUSINESS MARCH 14th. > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From mundy at tislabs.com Wed Mar 9 16:10:54 2016 From: mundy at tislabs.com (Russ Mundy) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:10:54 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] got it!!! In-Reply-To: <562564C70CBC4E5381DD8F71D7EDEADC@WUKPC> References: <562564C70CBC4E5381DD8F71D7EDEADC@WUKPC> Message-ID: <893C1C6A-D70C-4EF5-B60E-15F2AD39C1F5@tislabs.com> That’s Great!! Thanks for passing the news to our list. Russ On Mar 9, 2016, at 3:16 PM, WUKnoben wrote: > > The CCWG proposal was just approved by the GNSO council. > > Details shall be made available soon. > > Best regards > > Wolf-Ulrich > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From paf at frobbit.se Wed Mar 9 16:12:47 2016 From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 16:12:47 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Verisign and the RZMA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9 Mar 2016, at 16:00, Russ Mundy wrote: > On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote: > >> By the way when reading the live transcript, keep in mind that Russ Mundy’ name was changed to “Russ Million Dollars” in the transcript. >> >> This is the universe’s revenge for him calling me Martin, I think. > > Well put, MILTON!! :-)) Russ I must admit this is one of the few times this week I have really been laughing... 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Russ > > On Mar 9, 2016, at 3:16 PM, WUKnoben wrote: > >> >> The CCWG proposal was just approved by the GNSO council. >> >> Details shall be made available soon. >> >> Best regards >> >> Wolf-Ulrich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 842 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From lynn at lstamour.org Wed Mar 9 16:27:25 2016 From: lynn at lstamour.org (lynn at lstamour.org) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 09:27:25 -0700 Subject: [Internal-cg] got it!!! Message-ID: <20160309092725.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.b6556152fb.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pwilson at apnic.net Wed Mar 9 16:30:09 2016 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 02:30:09 +1000 Subject: [Internal-cg] got it!!! In-Reply-To: <20160309092725.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.b6556152fb.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> References: <20160309092725.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.b6556152fb.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> Message-ID: And did I hear correctly that the ccNSO has just done the same? On 10 Mar 2016, at 2:27, lynn at lstamour.org wrote: > Thank you Wolf-Ulrich, > > > and thank you to all the ICG members who worked so hard to get this > proposal complete and accepted. > > > Best to all, > Lynn-------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [Internal-cg] got it!!! >> From: "WUKnoben" >> <[wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de](mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de)> >> Date: Wed, March 09, 2016 8:16 am >> To: "ICG list" >> <[internal-cg at ianacg.org](mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org)> >> >> >>   > The CCWG proposal was just approved by the GNSO council. >   > Details shall be made available soon. > >> Best regards >> >> Wolf-Ulrich >> >> >> * * * > _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> [Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org](mailto:Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org) >> [http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org](http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org) > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg From keith at internetnz.net.nz Wed Mar 9 16:33:20 2016 From: keith at internetnz.net.nz (Keith Davidson) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 05:33:20 +1300 Subject: [Internal-cg] Consensus from ccNSO members In-Reply-To: References: <562564C70CBC4E5381DD8F71D7EDEADC@WUKPC> <893C1C6A-D70C-4EF5-B60E-15F2AD39C1F5@tislabs.com> Message-ID: <56E05050.5050502@internetnz.net.nz> All, Strong consensus from the ccNSO members meeting for CCWG-Accountability proposal, with only 2 abstentions and no "no" votes - so I imagine the ccNSO Council will approve its resolutions in its meeting coming up ion 30 minutes. Cheers Keith --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kdrazek at verisign.com Wed Mar 9 16:36:41 2016 From: kdrazek at verisign.com (Drazek, Keith) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:36:41 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Consensus from ccNSO members In-Reply-To: <56E05050.5050502@internetnz.net.nz> References: <562564C70CBC4E5381DD8F71D7EDEADC@WUKPC> <893C1C6A-D70C-4EF5-B60E-15F2AD39C1F5@tislabs.com> , <56E05050.5050502@internetnz.net.nz> Message-ID: <98DC744C-E8DB-4A06-AE2C-08DAC5503BEC@verisign.com> Fantastic! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Keith Davidson wrote: > > All, > > Strong consensus from the ccNSO members meeting for CCWG-Accountability proposal, with only 2 abstentions and no "no" votes - so I imagine the ccNSO Council will approve its resolutions in its meeting coming up ion 30 minutes.> > Cheers > > Keith > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > From wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de Wed Mar 9 16:47:45 2016 From: wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de (WUKnoben) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:47:45 -0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Verisign and the RZMA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B2F3D94886E41899D130D1D77CB466F@WUKPC> Russ, please remember me - before you add the million Dollars to the auction proceeds...:-) Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Russ Mundy Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 4:00 PM To: Mueller, Milton L Cc: Russ Mundy ; IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Verisign and the RZMA On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote: > By the way when reading the live transcript, keep in mind that Russ Mundy’ > name was changed to “Russ Million Dollars” in the transcript. > > This is the universe’s revenge for him calling me Martin, I think. Well put, MILTON!! :-)) Russ > > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of > Mueller, Milton L > Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 9:09 AM > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] FW: Verisign and the RZMA > > From the transcript Monday > > MIKE (SAYING NAME), INTEL. AFTER WE DELIVER THE PROPOSAL TO THE NTIA, THE > U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL BE INTERESTED IN THE VIEWS OF INDUSTRY AS TO THE > TRANSITION. THE LAST REMAINING GAPING HOLE IS THE ROOT ZONE MAINTAINER > AGREEMENT. AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS BEFORE WE CAN RENDER AN > OPINION. CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO PUBLISH SOMETHING ON THAT > AGREEMENT > > AKRAM ATALLAH: THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD > TO FINALIZE A FEW REMAINING ISSUES ON THE AGREEMENT. WE PLAN TO PUBLISH > AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE WORK WITH VERISIGN, OUR PARTNER IN THIS, AND NTIA > TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUBLISH HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF > THE MONTH, IF NOT THE ENTIRE AGREEMENT, MAYBE THE HEAD OF TERMS OF THE > AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING, AS MUCH AS WE CAN THAT IS FINALIZED.BUT THE > AGREEMENT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S AN AGREEMENT TO > PROVIDE SERVICES, THE MAINTAINER SERVICES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND IT > WILL ACTUALLY HAVE HAVE A GRACE FROM BOTH PARTIES TO TERMINATE THE > AGREEMENT AND ESPECIALLY IF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE CSC OR RZERC ASKS > US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS OR OPEN UP FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS, ALL THE RIGHTS > WILL BE HERE FOR THE AGREEMENT.WE'VE AGREED ON MOST OF THESE -- THE TERMS > THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN THE AGREEMENT. THE REMAINING ISSUES ARE MORE > REGULAR TERMS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING SO I DON'T FORESEE ANY MAJOR ISSUES. > WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO POST SOMETHING BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH. > > THANK YOU. IN ALL DUE RESPECT, THE END OF THE MONTH IS PRETTY -- IS NOT > GOOD ENOUGH. 200 MEMBERS OF THE CCWG JUMPED THROUGH HOOPS TO DEAL WITH A > LOT MORE PARTIES THAN TWO TO GET HERE TO MARRAKECH. TO PUT A FINER ON > THAT, SOME OF US MIGHT GET ASKED THAT ON ST. PATRICK'S DAY IN A PUBLIC > FORUM. 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Cheers Keith On 10/03/2016 6:13 a.m., Elise Gerich wrote: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From alissa at cooperw.in Wed Mar 9 18:05:06 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:05:06 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events Message-ID: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> Hi all, As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! Here is the plan for tomorrow: CCWG session - 9:00 UTC Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together for a moment. A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at the time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. Press conference - following Board meeting After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the transition, and our comms subgroup is working with them on that content, aligning it with our existing content. We will share links to that and the press release when we have them. Afterwards Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, which I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days we will respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, triaging who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. Alissa — Remarks to the community and Board: At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for what happens when the NTIA contract expires. Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call -- people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil society. I want to especially thank every person who participated in the operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the IETF. The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the people who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet our demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many more are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in service of a higher purpose. Thank you. The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive processes. Each component achieved consensus within the relevant community, and the final proposal has broad community support along many dimensions. The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it meets the NTIA criteria. One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it provides continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal keeps in place the same operational realities that have supported the Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven structures, processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract expires Internet users should notice no change. In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties implement it. From Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk Wed Mar 9 18:27:21 2016 From: Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk (Martin Boyle) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:27:21 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events In-Reply-To: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> References: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <25207BA4-948D-455C-9723-41537F742BB0@nominet.uk> That all looks good to me. (I would have expected CCWG before ICG, but hey, who cares?) A momentous decision- wish I could join you for the party! Martin Boyle Senior Policy Advisor Sent from my iPhone [cid:image001.jpg at 01D0FCF7.DEE0F1F0] nominet.uk DD: +44 (0)1865 332251 Minerva House, Edmund Halley Road, Oxford, OX4 4DQ, United Kingdom On 9 Mar 2016, at 18:06, Alissa Cooper > wrote: Hi all, As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! Here is the plan for tomorrow: CCWG session - 9:00 UTC Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together for a moment. A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at the time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. Press conference - following Board meeting After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the transition, and our comms subgroup is working with them on that content, aligning it with our existing content. We will share links to that and the press release when we have them. Afterwards Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, which I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days we will respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, triaging who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. Alissa — Remarks to the community and Board: At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for what happens when the NTIA contract expires. Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call -- people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil society. I want to especially thank every person who participated in the operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the IETF. The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the people who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet our demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many more are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in service of a higher purpose. Thank you. The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive processes. Each component achieved consensus within the relevant community, and the final proposal has broad community support along many dimensions. The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it meets the NTIA criteria. One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it provides continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal keeps in place the same operational realities that have supported the Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven structures, processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract expires Internet users should notice no change. In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties implement it. _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de Wed Mar 9 19:21:28 2016 From: Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de (Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:21:28 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events In-Reply-To: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> References: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> Message-ID: Thanks very much Alissa for your Leadership and guidance! Perfect! Wolf-Ulrich Sent from my personal phone > Am 09.03.2016 um 18:05 schrieb Alissa Cooper : > > Hi all, > > As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! Here is the plan for tomorrow: > > CCWG session - 9:00 UTC > > Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. > > > Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC > > At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together for a moment. > > A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at the time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. > > > Press conference - following Board meeting > > After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the transition, and our comms subgroup is working with them on that content, aligning it with our existing content. We will share links to that and the press release when we have them. > > Afterwards > > Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, which I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days we will respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, triaging who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. > > Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. > > Alissa > > — > > Remarks to the community and Board: > > At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for what happens when the NTIA contract expires. > > Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call -- people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil society. > > I want to especially thank every person who participated in the operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the IETF. The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the people who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet our demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many more are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. > > I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in service of a higher purpose. Thank you. > > The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive processes. Each component achieved consensus within the relevant community, and the final proposal has broad community support along many dimensions. > > The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it meets the NTIA criteria. > > One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it provides continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal keeps in place the same operational realities that have supported the Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven structures, processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract expires Internet users should notice no change. > > In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties implement it. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From lynn at lstamour.org Wed Mar 9 21:33:40 2016 From: lynn at lstamour.org (lynn at lstamour.org) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:33:40 -0700 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events Message-ID: <20160309143340.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.082ccf0107.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keith at internetnz.net.nz Wed Mar 9 22:43:29 2016 From: keith at internetnz.net.nz (Keith Davidson) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:43:29 +1300 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events In-Reply-To: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> References: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <56E0A711.8030800@internetnz.net.nz> Looks like a great plan to me thanks Alissa. We do indeed appear to be "in the home straight" and the only potential remaining hurdle will be whether or not the ICANN Board accepts the proposals, or rejects them. In any case it sounds like got cause to party hard, and am sad to not be there and join the festivities. Cheers Keith On 10/03/2016 7:05 a.m., Alissa Cooper wrote: > Hi all, > > As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! Here is the plan for tomorrow: > > CCWG session - 9:00 UTC > > Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. > > > Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC > > At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together for a moment. > > A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at the time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. > > > Press conference - following Board meeting > > After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the transition, and our comms subgroup is working with them on that content, aligning it with our existing content. We will share links to that and the press release when we have them. > > Afterwards > > Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, which I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days we will respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, triaging who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. > > Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. > > Alissa > > — > > Remarks to the community and Board: > > At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for what happens when the NTIA contract expires. > > Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call -- people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil society. > > I want to especially thank every person who participated in the operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the IETF. The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the people who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet our demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many more are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. > > I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in service of a higher purpose. Thank you. > > The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive processes. Each component achieved consensus within the relevant community, and the final proposal has broad community support along many dimensions. > > The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it meets the NTIA criteria. > > One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it provides continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal keeps in place the same operational realities that have supported the Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven structures, processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract expires Internet users should notice no change. > > In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties implement it. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From housley at vigilsec.com Wed Mar 9 23:32:53 2016 From: housley at vigilsec.com (Russ Housley) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:32:53 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events In-Reply-To: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> References: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <030DEA9B-0C7A-45A6-A6AE-C95EB9A614AE@vigilsec.com> Alissa: Thanks for sharing. It looks like a fine plan to me. Thanks to all for the hard work as we approach the final bell, Russ On 10/03/2016 7:05 a.m., Alissa Cooper wrote: > Hi all, > > As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! Here is the plan for tomorrow: > > CCWG session - 9:00 UTC > > Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. > > > Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC > > At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together for a moment. > > A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at the time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. > > > Press conference - following Board meeting > > After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the transition, and our comms subgroup is working with them on that content, aligning it with our existing content. We will share links to that and the press release when we have them. > > Afterwards > > Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, which I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days we will respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, triaging who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. > > Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. > > Alissa > > — > > Remarks to the community and Board: > > At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for what happens when the NTIA contract expires. > > Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call -- people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil society. > > I want to especially thank every person who participated in the operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the IETF. The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the people who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet our demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many more are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. > > I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in service of a higher purpose. Thank you. > > The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive processes. Each component achieved consensus within the relevant community, and the final proposal has broad community support along many dimensions. > > The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it meets the NTIA criteria. > > One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it provides continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal keeps in place the same operational realities that have supported the Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven structures, processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract expires Internet users should notice no change. > > In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties implement it. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From pwilson at apnic.net Wed Mar 9 23:41:51 2016 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:41:51 +1000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events In-Reply-To: <20160309143340.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.082ccf0107.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> References: <20160309143340.45c2b0deaefe927d5a993272a3e929b8.082ccf0107.wbe@email22.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <5775D813-992E-4F0F-BD66-B29F53C44DBF@apnic.net> Agreed, the statement is very nice. And likewise from me, congrats to everyone, particularly to our fantastic Chairs and equally fantastic Secretariat. I look forward to the “especially celebratory” party tomorrow night. :-) Paul. On 10 Mar 2016, at 7:33, lynn at lstamour.org wrote: > Hi Alissa, > > > I think this is a very good statement, and affirms all the important > points. > > > CONGRATULATIONS to all for all the excellent work!! > > > Wishing I was there to celebrate with all of you, > > > Warmest regards, > Lynn > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events >> From: Alissa Cooper <[alissa at cooperw.in](mailto:alissa at cooperw.in)> >> Date: Wed, March 09, 2016 11:05 am >> To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group >> <[internal-cg at ianacg.org](mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org)> >> >> Hi all, >> >> As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection >> from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! >> Here is the plan for tomorrow: >> >> CCWG session - 9:00 UTC >> >> Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at >> 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their >> proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I >> have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the >> web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. >> >> >> Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC >> >> At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will >> provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to >> address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG >> co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is >> that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals >> sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together >> for a moment. >> >> A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at >> the time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. >> >> >> Press conference - following Board meeting >> >> After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local >> reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in >> via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with >> representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will >> stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our >> proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be >> publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the >> transition, and our comms subgroup is working with them on that >> content, aligning it with our existing content. We will share links >> to that and the press release when we have them. >> >> Afterwards >> >> Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, >> which I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days >> we will respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, >> triaging who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. >> >> Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of >> you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. >> >> Alissa >> >> — >> >> Remarks to the community and Board: >> >> At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to >> the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: >> write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for >> what happens when the NTIA contract expires. >> >> Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call >> -- people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, >> people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil >> society. >> >> I want to especially thank every person who participated in the >> operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the >> CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the >> IETF. The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the >> people who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet >> our demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many >> more are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. >> >> I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who >> displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, >> compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in >> service of a higher purpose. Thank you. >> >> The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities >> is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its >> users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance >> of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found >> that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive processes. >> Each component achieved consensus within the relevant community, and >> the final proposal has broad community support along many dimensions. >> >> The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the >> multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and >> resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of >> the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of >> the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a >> government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it >> meets the NTIA criteria. >> >> One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it >> provides continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal >> keeps in place the same operational realities that have supported the >> Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the >> IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has >> today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven >> structures, processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract >> expires Internet users should notice no change. >> >> In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG >> unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties >> implement it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> [Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org](mailto:Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org) >> [http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org](http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org) > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg From alissa at cooperw.in Thu Mar 10 06:16:15 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:16:15 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Quotes Message-ID: The one item I forgot to mention is that ICANN is gathering a quote sheet that they will post on their site for media to draw from. If you'd like to have a quote attributed to you included there, send it to Jennifer and she will make sure it gets included. Thanks, Alissa From liman at netnod.se Thu Mar 10 08:43:00 2016 From: liman at netnod.se (Lars-Johan Liman) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:43:00 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events In-Reply-To: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> (Alissa Cooper's message of "Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:05:06 +0000") References: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <227fhau3jf.fsf@hiptop.autonomica.net> Looking good. Flaps out, gear down, VASI aligned, ... ... ... Cheers, /Liman alissa at cooperw.in: > Hi all, > As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection > from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! > Here is the plan for tomorrow: > CCWG session - 9:00 UTC > Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at > 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their > proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I > have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the > web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. > Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC > At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will > provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to > address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG > co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is > that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals > sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together > for a moment. > A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at the > time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. > Press conference - following Board meeting > After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local > reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in > via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with > representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will > stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our > proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be > publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the transition, > and our comms subgroup is working with them on that content, aligning > it with our existing content. We will share links to that and the > press release when we have them. > Afterwards > Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, which > I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days we will > respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, triaging > who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. > Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of > you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. > Alissa > — > Remarks to the community and Board: > At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to > the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: > write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for > what happens when the NTIA contract expires. > Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call -- > people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, > people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil > society. > I want to especially thank every person who participated in the > operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the > CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the > IETF. The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the > people who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet > our demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many > more are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. > I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who > displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, > compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in > service of a higher purpose. Thank you. > The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities > is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its > users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance > of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found > that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive > processes. Each component achieved consensus within the relevant > community, and the final proposal has broad community support along > many dimensions. > The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the > multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and > resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of > the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of > the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a > government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it > meets the NTIA criteria. > One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it provides > continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal keeps in > place the same operational realities that have supported the > Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the > IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has > today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven structures, > processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract expires Internet > users should notice no change. > In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG > unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties > implement it. > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From alissa at cooperw.in Thu Mar 10 09:16:34 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:16:34 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: Transmission of IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal References: Message-ID: <5B0AF098-E908-4569-A217-2330B3D73E4A@cooperw.in> Message sent. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Alissa Cooper > Subject: Transmission of IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal > Date: March 10, 2016 at 9:13:56 AM GMT > To: Steve Crocker > Cc: Patrik Fältström , Mohamed El Bashir > > To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling > In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair > > The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final transition proposal is attached to this email and available at >. The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. > > According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the transition proposal. 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URL: From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Thu Mar 10 09:33:02 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 04:33:02 -0500 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events In-Reply-To: References: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <56E13F4E.1000000@oracle.com> excellent. On 3/9/2016 2:21 PM, Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de wrote: > Thanks very much Alissa for your Leadership and guidance! > Perfect! > > Wolf-Ulrich > > Sent from my personal phone > >> Am 09.03.2016 um 18:05 schrieb Alissa Cooper : >> >> Hi all, >> >> As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! Here is the plan for tomorrow: >> >> CCWG session - 9:00 UTC >> >> Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. >> >> >> Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC >> >> At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together for a moment. >> >> A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at the time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. >> >> >> Press conference - following Board meeting >> >> After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the transition, and our comms subgroup is working with them on that content, aligning it with our existing content. We will share links to that and the press release when we have them. >> >> Afterwards >> >> Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, which I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days we will respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, triaging who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. >> >> Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. >> >> Alissa >> >> — >> >> Remarks to the community and Board: >> >> At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for what happens when the NTIA contract expires. >> >> Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call -- people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil society. >> >> I want to especially thank every person who participated in the operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the IETF. The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the people who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet our demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many more are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. >> >> I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in service of a higher purpose. Thank you. >> >> The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive processes. Each component achieved consensus within the relevant community, and the final proposal has broad community support along many dimensions. >> >> The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it meets the NTIA criteria. >> >> One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it provides continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal keeps in place the same operational realities that have supported the Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven structures, processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract expires Internet users should notice no change. >> >> In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties implement it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From mnuduma at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 09:50:32 2016 From: mnuduma at yahoo.com (mnuduma) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:50:32 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Transmits the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal Message-ID: Congratulations All. Thank you Alissa for your hard work. Mary Uduma Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Jennifer Chung Date: 10/03/2016 09:20 (GMT+00:00) To: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG Transmits the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal Dear All,   The public announcement has gone out - ICG Transmits the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal!   Congratulations to all!   Web site announcement: https://www.ianacg.org/icg-transmits-the-iana-stewardship-transition-proposal/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/ianastewardship/posts/1750796441815654 Twitter: https://twitter.com/ianastewardship/status/707857706908913664   Please share with your communities and constituencies!   Best Regards,   Jennifer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manal at tra.gov.eg Thu Mar 10 09:58:58 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:58:58 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Thursday events In-Reply-To: <227fhau3jf.fsf@hiptop.autonomica.net> References: <34439936-1CB0-46E0-937F-40ECA913E296@cooperw.in> <227fhau3jf.fsf@hiptop.autonomica.net> Message-ID: Sounds perfect .. Many thanks Alissa .. Thanks to the capable leadership of our chairs, not only in leading our work but also in coordinating with all other working groups seamlessly .. Thanks to our effective and efficient secretariat and to all members of the coordination group for the hard work .. Was a pleasure working with each and every one of you :) .. Congratulations to everyone !! Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Lars-Johan Liman Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:43 AM To: Alissa Cooper Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thursday events Importance: High Looking good. Flaps out, gear down, VASI aligned, ... ... ... Cheers, /Liman alissa at cooperw.in: > Hi all, > As you have seen, the CCWG proposal has receive approval/no objection > from all chartering organizations. So we are ready to move forward! > Here is the plan for tomorrow: > CCWG session - 9:00 UTC > Patrik, Mohamed, and I will attend the CCWG session that starts at > 9:00 UTC. As soon as it looks like they are ready to send their > proposal to the Board, we will send ours, at roughly the same time. I > have the email ready to go with attachment and link. Jennifer has the > web site announcement ready to post as soon as we send the email. > Public Board meeting - 16:30 UTC > At the Board meeting Steve Crocker and other Board members will > provide some remarks, and then at some point I will be invited to > address the Board and the community, followed by one of the CCWG > co-chairs. My proposed remarks for that are below. Then the hope is > that the Board will pass a couple of resolutions to get the proposals > sent off to NTIA and the community will be able to celebrate together > for a moment. > A press release will be issued by ICANN and other organizations at the > time the Board votes and I will be quoted in the release. > Press conference - following Board meeting > After the Board meeting there will be a press conference for local > reporters in attendance in Marrakech and remote reporters dialed in > via teleconference. I will attend on behalf of the ICG, along with > representatives from the CCWG, CWG, IETF, RIRs, and ICANN. I will > stick to the same messages in the comments below, the content of our > proposal, and our FAQ and other materials. ICANN will also be > publishing an FAQ about the two proposals together and the transition, > and our comms subgroup is working with them on that content, aligning > it with our existing content. We will share links to that and the > press release when we have them. > Afterwards > Of course there will be the usual ICANN cocktail tomorrow night, which > I imagine may be especially celebratory. :) In the coming days we will > respond to media outreach as we’ve been doing in the past, triaging > who can respond based on availability, geography, etc. > Please send questions/comments if you have them. Hope to see many of > you at the CCWG meeting and Board meeting tomorrow. > Alissa > — > Remarks to the community and Board: > At the beginning of this process, the ICG put a simple request out to > the communities that have direct operational relationships with IANA: > write us a transition proposal. Tell us your community's vision for > what happens when the NTIA contract expires. > Hundreds of people from all across the world responded to that call -- > people with technical, policy, business, and academic backgrounds, > people in the public and private sectors and people working in civil > society. > I want to especially thank every person who participated in the > operational community processes in the RIR communities and on the > CRISP team, in the CWG, and in the IANAPLAN working group in the IETF. > The ICG set tight deadlines and asked tough questions, and the people > who participated in these processes did their utmost to meet our > demands. Many of the participants are here in the room and many more > are not, and they all deserve a huge round of applause. > I also want to express deep appreciation to my ICG colleagues, who > displayed the true spirit of consensus-based decision-making, > compromise, professionalism, and willingness to bridge differences in > service of a higher purpose. Thank you. > The result of all of the work that went on in all of the communities > is a transition proposal that meets the needs of the Internet and its > users. The ICG conducted a rigorous assessment of both the substance > of the proposal and the processes that led to its creation. We found > that the proposal was developed through open, inclusive processes. > Each component achieved consensus within the relevant community, and > the final proposal has broad community support along many dimensions. > The substance of the proposal supports and enhances the > multistakeholder model; maintains the security, stability, and > resiliency of the Internet DNS; meets the needs and expectations of > the global customers and partners of IANA; maintains the openness of > the Internet; and does not replace NTIA's role with that of a > government or inter-governmental organization. In other words, it > meets the NTIA criteria. > One particular strength of the transition proposal is that it provides > continuity with how the Internet works today. The proposal keeps in > place the same operational realities that have supported the > Internet's enormous growth since the 1990s. It keeps the role of the > IANA functions team intact and carrying out the same duties as it has > today. It relies in large part on time-tested, well-proven structures, > processes, and bodies. So the day the NTIA contract expires Internet > users should notice no change. > In sum, this proposal is good for the future of the Internet. The ICG > unanimously supports it and recommends that all affected parties > implement it. > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From alissa at cooperw.in Thu Mar 10 10:22:33 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:22:33 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Fwd: Transmission of IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal References: <89C9EF0B-92E6-4BD9-B833-BA8FD5BA14F1@icann.org> Message-ID: <0701C08E-3776-44D4-965D-464452AEA50F@cooperw.in> Forwarding with Steve’s permission. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Steve Crocker > Subject: Re: Transmission of IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal > Date: March 10, 2016 at 10:06:24 AM GMT > To: Alissa Cooper , Patrik Fältström , Mohamed El Bashir > Cc: Steve Crocker , Icann-board ICANN > > Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed, > > Thanks very much for transmitting this proposal. I have forwarded it to the rest of the Board. We will process it later today at the public board meeting. > > We will say thanks several more times, but we’ll start now: Thank you and everyone on the ICG and all of the people who worked on the individual proposals. This is a very good day. > > Steve > > On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Alissa Cooper > wrote: > >> To: Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling >> In care of Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair >> >> The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) has finalized the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and is hereby forwarding it to the ICANN Board for transmission to NTIA. The final transition proposal is attached to this email and available at >. The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends that all affected parties implement it. >> >> According to the agreement reached between the ICG and the ICANN Board in November 2014 [1][2], the ICG expects that the ICANN Board will send the proposal to NTIA within 14 days of receiving it, without making any changes, and that the Board will make public any communications it sends to NTIA together with the transition proposal. Given that the ICG has received no indications from the Board of any remaining concerns with the transition proposal, we do not expect the Board to document any concerns with it in its correspondence to NTIA. >> >> Please feel free to get in touch with us if you have questions. >> >> Regards, >> Alissa Cooper, Patrik Fältström, and Mohamed El Bashir >> on behalf of the ICG >> >> [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-November/002245.html >> [2] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, Jennifer — From: Steve Crocker Date: March 10, 2016 at 6:20:58 PM GMT To: Larry Strickling, Fiona Alexander Cc: Steve Crocker, Fadi Chehade , Akram Atallah, Cherine Chalaby Subject: IANA Stewardship Transition and the Affirmation of Commitments The Honorable Lawrence E. Strickling Assistant Secretary for Communication and Information and Administrator, National Telecommunications and Information Administration United States Department of Commerce 1401 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20230 Re: IANA Stewardship Transition and the Affirmation of Commitments Dear Assistant Secretary Strickling: On behalf of the ICANN Board of Directors it gives me great pleasure to transmit to you the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal, which outlines the transition of NTIA’s stewardship of the IANA functions to the global multistakeholder community. I am also pleased to transmit the CCWG Accountability Supplemental Final Proposal on Work Stream 1 Recommendations on Enhancing ICANN Accountability. In its 14 March 2014 announcement, NTIA asked ICANN to convene an inclusive, global discussion to determine a process for transitioning the stewardship of these functions to the multistakeholder community. It specifically stated that the transition proposal must have broad community support and address the following four principles: 1. Support and enhance the multistakeholder model; 2. Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS; 3. Meet the needs and expectations of the global customers and partners of the IANA services; and, 4. Maintain the openness of the Internet. NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces NTIA’s role with a government-led or intergovernmental organization solution. Thirty individuals, representing the broad range of Internet stakeholder interests, were nominated by their respective communities to become a part of the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG). The ICG assembled input from three global multistakeholder communities with direct operational relationships with the IANA functions – Domain Names, Numbering Resources, and Protocol Parameters – to develop one single, cohesive proposal to facilitate the succession of NTIA’s stewardship of the IANA functions. The Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability), made up of members from ICANN’s Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees, and over 200 participants, developed a separate proposal for enhancing ICANN’s accountability in light of the changing historical relationship with the U.S. Government. The proposals underwent extensive discussion and enjoy broad global community support. The relevant multistakeholder communities held over 600 calls and meetings with more than 32,000 mailing list exchanges over the past two years . The ICG proposal was finalized after the three operational communities of the IANA functions indicated consensus support for the proposal. The CCWG-Accountability proposal received consensus support from its members and was subsequently approved by the Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees which chartered the group. The proposals themselves describe at great length how their recommendations meet all of NTIA’s criteria. The ICANN Board agrees with the community that the proposals do in fact meet each of NTIA’s criteria. The ICANN Board resolutions for the package address each of the proposals. As you conduct your review of the package of proposals, please let us know if you have any questions or concerns. , The ICANN multistakeholder community eagerly awaits the results of your review. Sincerely, Dr. Stephen Crocker Enclosures: * Cover Page for IANA Stewardship Transition Package * Cover Note from Dr. Stephen Crocker * ICANN Board Resolution on IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal * ICANN Board Resolution on Enhancing ICANN Accountability Recommendations * IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) Proposal * Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG- Accountability) Proposal * IANA Stewardship Transition Timeline * Diversity and Statistics on Development of IANA Stewardship Transition Package -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Unfortunately I could not deliberate about this with our whole group beforehand because the invitation was not public information, but I chatted with some of you about it and all involved seemed to believe this would be a good thing to do. During the hearing I will stick to the content of our proposal and communications messages as best I can. I will share my written testimony once it’s completed. Best, Alissa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pwilson at apnic.net Sat Mar 12 07:26:03 2016 From: pwilson at apnic.net (Paul Wilson) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:26:03 +0400 Subject: [Internal-cg] Congressional hearing In-Reply-To: <95B75A69-8068-4A19-BB4E-EFA313332F3E@cooperw.in> References: <95B75A69-8068-4A19-BB4E-EFA313332F3E@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <78A9EBF0-4AA6-4863-A03A-664F499F17F5@apnic.net> That's great to hear thanks Alissa. Will the proceeding be broadcast? Paul On 12 March 2016 10:56:12 am GMT+04:00, Alissa Cooper wrote: >As folks may know, there will be a hearing about the IANA stewardship >transition in the US House Energy and Commerce Committee on Thursday, >March 17 >>. >I will be testifying as ICG chair. Unfortunately I could not deliberate >about this with our whole group beforehand because the invitation was >not public information, but I chatted with some of you about it and all >involved seemed to believe this would be a good thing to do. During the >hearing I will stick to the content of our proposal and communications >messages as best I can. I will share my written testimony once it’s >completed. > >Best, >Alissa > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Internal-cg mailing list >Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -- Paul Wilson Director General, APNIC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbladel at godaddy.com Sat Mar 12 08:10:29 2016 From: jbladel at godaddy.com (James M. Bladel) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:10:29 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Congressional hearing In-Reply-To: <78A9EBF0-4AA6-4863-A03A-664F499F17F5@apnic.net> References: <95B75A69-8068-4A19-BB4E-EFA313332F3E@cooperw.in>, <78A9EBF0-4AA6-4863-A03A-664F499F17F5@apnic.net> Message-ID: <0CAD07F5-8914-47B9-950F-CEDB9AE404BE@godaddy.com> These are often webcast. For updates, here's the announcement on the subcommittee calendar: https://energycommerce.house.gov/hearings-and-votes/hearings/privatizing-internet-assigned-number-authority Thank you, J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy On Mar 12, 2016, at 08:52, Paul Wilson > wrote: That's great to hear thanks Alissa. Will the proceeding be broadcast? Paul On 12 March 2016 10:56:12 am GMT+04:00, Alissa Cooper > wrote: As folks may know, there will be a hearing about the IANA stewardship transition in the US House Energy and Commerce Committee on Thursday, March 17 . I will be testifying as ICG chair. Unfortunately I could not deliberate about this with our whole group beforehand because the invitation was not public information, but I chatted with some of you about it and all involved seemed to believe this would be a good thing to do. During the hearing I will stick to the content of our proposal and communications messages as best I can. I will share my written testimony once it's completed. Best, Alissa ________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -- Paul Wilson Director General, APNIC _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbladel at godaddy.com Sat Mar 12 08:42:28 2016 From: jbladel at godaddy.com (James M. Bladel) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:42:28 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Congressional hearing In-Reply-To: <0CAD07F5-8914-47B9-950F-CEDB9AE404BE@godaddy.com> References: <95B75A69-8068-4A19-BB4E-EFA313332F3E@cooperw.in>, <78A9EBF0-4AA6-4863-A03A-664F499F17F5@apnic.net>, <0CAD07F5-8914-47B9-950F-CEDB9AE404BE@godaddy.com> Message-ID: Sorry, on mobile and didn't see the link earlier in the thread. Thank you, J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy On Mar 12, 2016, at 09:11, James M. Bladel > wrote: These are often webcast. For updates, here's the announcement on the subcommittee calendar: https://energycommerce.house.gov/hearings-and-votes/hearings/privatizing-internet-assigned-number-authority Thank you, J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy On Mar 12, 2016, at 08:52, Paul Wilson > wrote: That's great to hear thanks Alissa. Will the proceeding be broadcast? Paul On 12 March 2016 10:56:12 am GMT+04:00, Alissa Cooper > wrote: As folks may know, there will be a hearing about the IANA stewardship transition in the US House Energy and Commerce Committee on Thursday, March 17 . I will be testifying as ICG chair. Unfortunately I could not deliberate about this with our whole group beforehand because the invitation was not public information, but I chatted with some of you about it and all involved seemed to believe this would be a good thing to do. During the hearing I will stick to the content of our proposal and communications messages as best I can. I will share my written testimony once it's completed. Best, Alissa ________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -- Paul Wilson Director General, APNIC _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For updates, here's the announcement on the > subcommittee calendar: > > > https://energycommerce.house.gov/hearings-and-votes/hearings/privatizing-internet-assigned-number-authority > > Thank you, > > J. > ____________ > James Bladel > GoDaddy > > On Mar 12, 2016, at 08:52, Paul Wilson wrote: > > That's great to hear thanks Alissa. Will the proceeding be broadcast? > > Paul > > On 12 March 2016 10:56:12 am GMT+04:00, Alissa Cooper > wrote: >> >> As folks may know, there will be a hearing about the IANA stewardship >> transition in the US House Energy and Commerce Committee on Thursday, March >> 17 < >> https://energycommerce.house.gov/hearings-and-votes/hearings/privatizing-internet-assigned-number-authority>. >> I will be testifying as ICG chair. Unfortunately I could not deliberate >> about this with our whole group beforehand because the invitation was not >> public information, but I chatted with some of you about it and all >> involved seemed to believe this would be a good thing to do. During the >> hearing I will stick to the content of our proposal and communications >> messages as best I can. I will share my written testimony once it’s >> completed. >> >> Best, >> Alissa >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> > -- > Paul Wilson > Director General, APNIC > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manal at tra.gov.eg Sun Mar 13 10:18:20 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:18:20 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Congressional hearing In-Reply-To: References: <95B75A69-8068-4A19-BB4E-EFA313332F3E@cooperw.in> <78A9EBF0-4AA6-4863-A03A-664F499F17F5@apnic.net> <0CAD07F5-8914-47B9-950F-CEDB9AE404BE@godaddy.com> Message-ID: <7b6c478efc1f48a780a1984640be1eda@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Agree with Milton, " It’s good that they are moving so fast " !! Good luck Alissa and thanks for always keeping us posted .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:18 PM To: James M. Bladel Cc: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Congressional hearing Dear Alissa, Bon Courrage Kavouss 2016-03-12 9:42 GMT+01:00 James M. Bladel >: Sorry, on mobile and didn't see the link earlier in the thread. Thank you, J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy On Mar 12, 2016, at 09:11, James M. Bladel > wrote: These are often webcast. For updates, here's the announcement on the subcommittee calendar: https://energycommerce.house.gov/hearings-and-votes/hearings/privatizing-internet-assigned-number-authority Thank you, J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy On Mar 12, 2016, at 08:52, Paul Wilson > wrote: That's great to hear thanks Alissa. Will the proceeding be broadcast? Paul On 12 March 2016 10:56:12 am GMT+04:00, Alissa Cooper > wrote: As folks may know, there will be a hearing about the IANA stewardship transition in the US House Energy and Commerce Committee on Thursday, March 17 . I will be testifying as ICG chair. Unfortunately I could not deliberate about this with our whole group beforehand because the invitation was not public information, but I chatted with some of you about it and all involved seemed to believe this would be a good thing to do. During the hearing I will stick to the content of our proposal and communications messages as best I can. I will share my written testimony once it’s completed. Best, Alissa ________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -- Paul Wilson Director General, APNIC _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Manal Ismail Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 1:30 AM To: Alissa Cooper Cc: Subject: RE: Updating ICG FAQ Please find attached, updates in track changes and on Dropbox .. Would be good to have a second eye .. Done it in the flight with no Internet access, so appreciate if secretariat could help with adding the relevant links and updating the timeline diagram if we are to keep it .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:29 PM To: Manal Ismail Cc: Subject: Updating ICG FAQ Hi Manal, We probably need at least some minor updates to the ICG FAQ at this point. Would you be up for leading that effort, perhaps together with another ICG member? Thanks, Alissa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Looking forward to seeing the discussion! > > Jari > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From alissa at cooperw.in Tue Mar 15 23:30:57 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:30:57 -0700 Subject: [Internal-cg] Congressional hearing In-Reply-To: <95B75A69-8068-4A19-BB4E-EFA313332F3E@cooperw.in> References: <95B75A69-8068-4A19-BB4E-EFA313332F3E@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <6B9C24E4-4A45-41B0-BFF5-B696EECA449E@cooperw.in> My written testimony is attached. Best, Alissa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Witnessing the extraordinary efforts of the multistakeholder community to develop these proposals has been impressive and humbling. > > While the community has been working hard to finalize the proposals included in the plan, my team and I have been diligently preparing for the implementation phase of the anticipated IANA stewardship transition. One of the tasks that must be completed is for ICANN and Verisign to enter into a Root ZoneMaintainer Agreement (RZMA). Another is to extend the .com Registry Agreement to run for the same term as the RZMA, which ICANN and Verisign believe enhances the security, stability and resiliency of the root zone infrastructure. Today, I want to provide you with some background information on the RZMA and an update on our progress. > > As noted in the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) proposal, the complete and finalized transition requires revising the relationship between the current IANA Functions Operator (ICANN), the current Root Zone Maintainer (Verisign) and the current Root Zone Administrator (NTIA). Specifically, the role of NTIA will be eliminated and a written agreement between ICANN and Verisign establishing each party's role will need to be in place once that happens. > > On 4 March 2015, NTIA officially requested that ICANN and Verisign work together to develop a proposal on how best to transition NTIA's administrative role associated with root zone management. Of paramount importance is accomplishing this in a manner that maintains the security, stability and resiliency of the root zone management process. ICANN and Verisign are close to having terms and conditions that accomplish this essential objective and that clearly define the respective roles and responsibilities of each party. > > In general, we have already agreed that Verisign will be compensated for performance of the maintainer function and will have obligations to meet certain service-level agreements (SLAs) that the parties may adjust to address recommendations of the Customer Standing Committee pursuant to a change control process anticipated in the agreement. This change process is being defined to allow for the community to introduce through ICANN improvements to the Root Zone Management System as well. While the term of the RZMA is intended to promote the security, stability and resiliency of root zone maintenance operations by having Verisign continue in its role, the agreement also provides a capability for the community, through a consensus-based community-driven process, to cause ICANN to transition the function to another service provider after an agreed-upon number of years. > > There are some remaining issues that need to be resolved before we finalize a draft of the agreement. It's difficult to enumerate these issues because discussions are ongoing and the status of the issues changes frequently. However, we are making good progress and expect to complete a draft soon. > > Once ICANN and Verisign have completed the draft agreement, it will be posted for a 30-day community review period. This is in accordance with ICANN's transparency as well as in keeping with the recommendation in the ICG proposal to make the draft proposal available for public review prior to execution. > > There is still work to do but we are making good progress. I encourage you to explore the web pages listed below for more information and to keep abreast of the latest developments. > > Root Zone Administrator Proposal Related to the IANA Functions Stewardship Transition [PDF, 247 KB] > IANA Stewardship Transition Implementation > IANA Stewardship and Accountability > _______________________________________________ > CWG-Stewardship mailing list > CWG-Stewardship at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed From jjs at dyalog.net Thu Mar 24 03:55:02 2016 From: jjs at dyalog.net (Subrenat, Jean-Jacques) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:55:02 +0800 (CST) Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group In-Reply-To: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <548986449.19.1458791661122.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> Hello Alissa, Patrik, Mohamed, I'm traveling, but if the work is mainly by email and the occasional teleconference, you can count me in. I've not worked directly with the CCWG, but have been on an AC (ALAC) and on the ICANN Board. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Alissa Cooper" À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Mars 2016 06:55:30 Objet: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group Hi all, There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the accountability proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, the Board, and the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one ICG member join the group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and liaise back to the ICG in case anything arises that should be brought to our attention. Is someone willing to take this on? The timing is tight as the bylaws drafting is already underway, so please respond by March 25 at 18:00 UTC if you’re able and interested. Thanks, Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 06:35:32 2016 From: kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com (Kavouss Arasteh) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:35:32 +0100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group In-Reply-To: <548986449.19.1458791661122.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> References: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> <548986449.19.1458791661122.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> Message-ID: Dear Alissa, Congratulations for your test money before the House Sub-Committee. It was one of the most neutral testimony among those presented for which we appreciate your efforts and time. Like Jean -Jacques, if the meeting and or participation could be done through correspondence, since I have been very active in the entire CCWG, I would be happy to be there . Regards Kavouss 2016-03-24 4:55 GMT+01:00 Subrenat, Jean-Jacques : > Hello Alissa, Patrik, Mohamed, > > I'm traveling, but if the work is mainly by email and the occasional > teleconference, you can count me in. I've not worked directly with the > CCWG, but have been on an AC (ALAC) and on the ICANN Board. > > Best regards, > Jean-Jacques. > > > > > > ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Alissa Cooper" > À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" > Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Mars 2016 06:55:30 > Objet: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group > > Hi all, > > There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws > changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the > accountability proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, > the Board, and the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one > ICG member join the group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and > liaise back to the ICG in case anything arises that should be brought to > our attention. Is someone willing to take this on? The timing is tight as > the bylaws drafting is already underway, so please respond by March 25 at > 18:00 UTC if you’re able and interested. > > Thanks, > Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com Thu Mar 24 08:50:03 2016 From: joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com (Joseph Alhadeff) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:50:03 -0400 Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group In-Reply-To: References: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> <548986449.19.1458791661122.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> Message-ID: I'll be traveling most of the month but happy to be a secondary review by email if helpful. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:35 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > > Dear Alissa, > Congratulations for your test money before the House Sub-Committee. It was one of the most neutral testimony among those presented for which we appreciate your efforts and time. > Like Jean -Jacques, if the meeting and or participation could be done through correspondence, since I have been very active in the entire CCWG, I would be happy to be there . > Regards > Kavouss > > 2016-03-24 4:55 GMT+01:00 Subrenat, Jean-Jacques : >> Hello Alissa, Patrik, Mohamed, >> >> I'm traveling, but if the work is mainly by email and the occasional teleconference, you can count me in. I've not worked directly with the CCWG, but have been on an AC (ALAC) and on the ICANN Board. >> >> Best regards, >> Jean-Jacques. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Mail original ----- >> De: "Alissa Cooper" >> À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" >> Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Mars 2016 06:55:30 >> Objet: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group >> >> Hi all, >> >> There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the accountability proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, the Board, and the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one ICG member join the group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and liaise back to the ICG in case anything arises that should be brought to our attention. Is someone willing to take this on? The timing is tight as the bylaws drafting is already underway, so please respond by March 25 at 18:00 UTC if you’re able and interested. >> >> Thanks, >> Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From milton at gatech.edu Thu Mar 24 13:12:30 2016 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:12:30 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group In-Reply-To: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> References: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: Let me volunteer. --MM > -----Original Message----- > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of > Alissa Cooper > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:56 PM > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group > > Hi all, > > There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws > changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the accountability > proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, the Board, and > the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one ICG member join the > group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and liaise back to the ICG in > case anything arises that should be brought to our attention. Is someone > willing to take this on? The timing is tight as the bylaws drafting is already > underway, so please respond by March 25 at 18:00 UTC if you’re able and > interested. > > Thanks, > Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From mundy at tislabs.com Thu Mar 24 16:08:15 2016 From: mundy at tislabs.com (Russ Mundy) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:08:15 -0400 Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group In-Reply-To: References: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> <548986449.19.1458791661122.JavaMail.jjs-mac-2@MacBook-Air-de-Jean-Jacques-2.local> Message-ID: <071CEAF7-0102-438D-A6CE-6A0F8B5F29E1@tislabs.com> My interest level in this is high although my time is a bit limited - I’d be happy to also help with review. Russ M On Mar 24, 2016, at 4:50 AM, Joseph Alhadeff wrote: > I'll be traveling most of the month but happy to be a secondary review by email if helpful. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:35 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > >> Dear Alissa, >> Congratulations for your test money before the House Sub-Committee. It was one of the most neutral testimony among those presented for which we appreciate your efforts and time. >> Like Jean -Jacques, if the meeting and or participation could be done through correspondence, since I have been very active in the entire CCWG, I would be happy to be there . >> Regards >> Kavouss >> >> 2016-03-24 4:55 GMT+01:00 Subrenat, Jean-Jacques : >> Hello Alissa, Patrik, Mohamed, >> >> I'm traveling, but if the work is mainly by email and the occasional teleconference, you can count me in. I've not worked directly with the CCWG, but have been on an AC (ALAC) and on the ICANN Board. >> >> Best regards, >> Jean-Jacques. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Mail original ----- >> De: "Alissa Cooper" >> À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" >> Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Mars 2016 06:55:30 >> Objet: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group >> >> Hi all, >> >> There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the accountability proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, the Board, and the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one ICG member join the group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and liaise back to the ICG in case anything arises that should be brought to our attention. Is someone willing to take this on? The timing is tight as the bylaws drafting is already underway, so please respond by March 25 at 18:00 UTC if you’re able and interested. >> >> Thanks, >> Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From alissa at cooperw.in Thu Mar 24 18:15:53 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:15:53 -0700 Subject: [Internal-cg] Implementation oversight Message-ID: <0930EA12-D165-431C-9AAC-ECDE73BDC9E7@cooperw.in> A group of folks, mostly from the CWG and ICANN, have gotten together to provide input as implementation of the transition proposal moves forward. 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URL: From alissa at cooperw.in Thu Mar 24 18:18:10 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:18:10 -0700 Subject: [Internal-cg] Updating ICG FAQ In-Reply-To: <8af6f8e848114fe3a493345bedadf289@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> References: <4F574673-1F47-4810-89B3-F7C2E4B0F000@cooperw.in> <2e5108bd8b9b4aed90e76d92691941ab@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <8af6f8e848114fe3a493345bedadf289@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Message-ID: Looks good to me. > On Mar 14, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Manal Ismail wrote: > > Dear All .. > > Please find attached, in response to Alissa's below request .. > Jennifer is on her way back after ICANN Marrakech and will be adding the necessary links as soon as she settles .. > Meanwhile appreciate any feedback you may have .. > > Kind Regards > --Manal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Manal Ismail > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 1:30 AM > To: Alissa Cooper > Cc: > Subject: RE: Updating ICG FAQ > > Please find attached, updates in track changes and on Dropbox .. > Would be good to have a second eye .. > Done it in the flight with no Internet access, so appreciate if secretariat could help with adding the relevant links and updating the timeline diagram if we are to keep it .. > Kind Regards > --Manal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:29 PM > To: Manal Ismail > Cc: > Subject: Updating ICG FAQ > > Hi Manal, > > We probably need at least some minor updates to the ICG FAQ at this point. Would you be up for leading that effort, perhaps together with another ICG member? > > Thanks, > Alissa > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From jen at icgsec.asia Thu Mar 24 18:55:51 2016 From: jen at icgsec.asia (Jennifer Chung) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:55:51 -0400 Subject: [Internal-cg] Updating ICG FAQ In-Reply-To: References: <4F574673-1F47-4810-89B3-F7C2E4B0F000@cooperw.in> <2e5108bd8b9b4aed90e76d92691941ab@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> <8af6f8e848114fe3a493345bedadf289@ntra-mbx1.TRA.GOV.EG> Message-ID: <000b01d185fe$cb541e10$61fc5a30$@icgsec.asia> Dear All, Attached please find Manal's FAQ update with links added. Dropbox link: http://icgsec.asia/1T82rxk Regarding the outdated 'timeline' graphic we currently have on the ICG FAQ, I have included an updated implementation diagram as received from ICANN staff - please note that this diagram is only updated to March 7, further updates are in progress. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:18 PM To: Manal Ismail Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Updating ICG FAQ Looks good to me. > On Mar 14, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Manal Ismail wrote: > > Dear All .. > > Please find attached, in response to Alissa's below request .. > Jennifer is on her way back after ICANN Marrakech and will be adding the necessary links as soon as she settles .. > Meanwhile appreciate any feedback you may have .. > > Kind Regards > --Manal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Manal Ismail > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 1:30 AM > To: Alissa Cooper > Cc: > Subject: RE: Updating ICG FAQ > > Please find attached, updates in track changes and on Dropbox .. > Would be good to have a second eye .. > Done it in the flight with no Internet access, so appreciate if secretariat could help with adding the relevant links and updating the timeline diagram if we are to keep it .. > Kind Regards > --Manal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:29 PM > To: Manal Ismail > Cc: > Subject: Updating ICG FAQ > > Hi Manal, > > We probably need at least some minor updates to the ICG FAQ at this point. 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Like Jean -Jacques, if the meeting and or participation could be done through correspondence, since I have been very active in the entire CCWG, I would be happy to be there . Regards Kavouss 2016-03-24 4:55 GMT+01:00 Subrenat, Jean-Jacques : Hello Alissa, Patrik, Mohamed, I'm traveling, but if the work is mainly by email and the occasional teleconference, you can count me in. I've not worked directly with the CCWG, but have been on an AC (ALAC) and on the ICANN Board. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Alissa Cooper" À: "IANA etc etcCoordination Group" Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Mars 2016 06:55:30 Objet: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group Hi all, There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the accountability proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, the Board, and the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one ICG member join the group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and liaise back to the ICG in case anything arises that should be brought to our attention. Is someone willing to take this on? The timing is tight as the bylaws drafting is already underway, so please respond by March 25 at 18:00 UTC if you’re able and interested. 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URL: From alissa at cooperw.in Sat Mar 26 12:29:56 2016 From: alissa at cooperw.in (Alissa Cooper) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 05:29:56 -0700 Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group In-Reply-To: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> References: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: Thanks to all those who volunteered. Given their involvement in the CCWG and CWG work, respectively, let’s have Kavouss and Milton join the group and others be available for further reviews when they liaise back to us. Alissa > On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > > Hi all, > > There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the accountability proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, the Board, and the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one ICG member join the group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and liaise back to the ICG in case anything arises that should be brought to our attention. Is someone willing to take this on? The timing is tight as the bylaws drafting is already underway, so please respond by March 25 at 18:00 UTC if you’re able and interested. > > Thanks, > Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From mundy at tislabs.com Mon Mar 28 13:32:23 2016 From: mundy at tislabs.com (Russ Mundy) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 09:32:23 -0400 Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group In-Reply-To: References: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: This sounds like a good approach. Russ M On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > Thanks to all those who volunteered. > > Given their involvement in the CCWG and CWG work, respectively, let’s have Kavouss and Milton join the group and others be available for further reviews when they liaise back to us. > > Alissa > >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the accountability proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, the Board, and the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one ICG member join the group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and liaise back to the ICG in case anything arises that should be brought to our attention. Is someone willing to take this on? The timing is tight as the bylaws drafting is already underway, so please respond by March 25 at 18:00 UTC if you’re able and interested. >> >> Thanks, >> Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org >> http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org From Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk Wed Mar 30 17:12:04 2016 From: Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk (Martin Boyle) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:12:04 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Implementation oversight In-Reply-To: <0930EA12-D165-431C-9AAC-ECDE73BDC9E7@cooperw.in> References: <0930EA12-D165-431C-9AAC-ECDE73BDC9E7@cooperw.in> Message-ID: I have also signed up to observe. From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: 24 March 2016 18:16 To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: [Internal-cg] Implementation oversight A group of folks, mostly from the CWG and ICANN, have gotten together to provide input as implementation of the transition proposal moves forward. I have joined this group to observe the progress and will report back to the ICG if there is relevant news to bring back. The group has a mailing list with a public archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/iotf/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manal at tra.gov.eg Wed Mar 30 22:10:34 2016 From: manal at tra.gov.eg (Manal Ismail) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:10:34 +0000 Subject: [Internal-cg] Implementation oversight In-Reply-To: References: <0930EA12-D165-431C-9AAC-ECDE73BDC9E7@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <41cd65c43ccd42d192083c8ce92a2e0a@ntra-mbx2.TRA.GOV.EG> Also signed as an observer .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boyle Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:12 PM To: Alissa Cooper ; IANA etc etcCoordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Implementation oversight I have also signed up to observe. From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: 24 March 2016 18:16 To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: [Internal-cg] Implementation oversight A group of folks, mostly from the CWG and ICANN, have gotten together to provide input as implementation of the transition proposal moves forward. I have joined this group to observe the progress and will report back to the ICG if there is relevant news to bring back. The group has a mailing list with a public archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/iotf/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From narelle.clark at accan.org.au Thu Mar 31 02:38:53 2016 From: narelle.clark at accan.org.au (Narelle Clark) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:38:53 +1100 Subject: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group In-Reply-To: References: <1C581222-274F-4E65-B870-FB23836DABC5@cooperw.in> Message-ID: <7146C0FDA8771A43BEB20E18700C2E4F016FCBE7D92B@ACCAN01.accan.local> I heard they were having *daily* conference calls to complete this. Narelle > -----Original Message----- > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of > Alissa Cooper > Sent: Saturday, 26 March 2016 11:30 PM > To: IANA etc etcCoordination Group > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Bylaws coordination group > > Thanks to all those who volunteered. > > Given their involvement in the CCWG and CWG work, respectively, let’s have > Kavouss and Milton join the group and others be available for further reviews > when they liaise back to us. > > Alissa > > > On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > There is currently a group of folks who are working on drafting the bylaws > changes necessary to carry out the transition proposal and the accountability > proposal. The group includes reps from the OCs, the CCWG, the Board, and > the various legal teams. If possible we’d like to have one ICG member join > the group, at a minimum to observe the group’s work and liaise back to the > ICG in case anything arises that should be brought to our attention. Is > someone willing to take this on? The timing is tight as the bylaws drafting is > already underway, so please respond by March 25 at 18:00 UTC if you’re able > and interested. > > > > Thanks, > > Alissa, Patrik and Mohamed > > _______________________________________________ > > Internal-cg mailing list > > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg at mm.ianacg.org > http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org